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penguinbait 2009-01-19 20:35

Console-Tools Poll does it suck?
 
Console-tools has been out for a little while and I fixed the major bugs, but it still seems people are having problems and I am not able to get anyone to give me repeatable problem to troubleshoot.

Anyway, the things that end up in the tread are problems, very few people actually report hey its working great, often they only post when a problem using the tool arises.

This is fine, but it ends up making me think its not working well for anyone. So I thought I would post a poll and ask some questions.

Thesandlord 2009-01-19 21:36

Re: Console-Tools Poll does it suck?
 
With the old install tools, I just ran it and it partitioned the card and installed bootmenu correctly. Very simple. console-tools is a lot more complicated, and it took a lot of guess and check to make it work. I had to use pb to clone the partition non-destructively, and then pbeasy to make the boot-menu. I don't know, but install-tools was just a LOT simpler, though less useful.

Benson 2009-01-19 22:47

Re: Console-Tools Poll does it suck?
 
Missing option: "IT SUCKS (but I never tried it out!)"

penguinbait 2009-01-19 23:26

Re: Console-Tools Poll does it suck?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Benson (Post 258725)
Missing option: "IT SUCKS (but I never tried it out!)"

Good morning mr. benson, I see youre doing well,
If I had me a shotgun Id blow you straight to hell.

Grateful Dead: Candyman

penguinbait 2009-01-19 23:46

Re: Console-Tools Poll does it suck?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Thesandlord (Post 258708)
With the old install tools, I just ran it and it partitioned the card and installed bootmenu correctly. Very simple. console-tools is a lot more complicated, and it took a lot of guess and check to make it work. I had to use pb to clone the partition non-destructively, and then pbeasy to make the boot-menu. I don't know, but install-tools was just a LOT simpler, though less useful.

Why could you not use pb to install bootmenu?

To All:

I am looking for input on console tools, whats not working what needs to be fixed, don't like it all, what do you want in its place. The problem with install-tools is that you may or may bot need to reboot, but you really always should. If the partitions are staying the exact same size, it usually works, if the partitions are changing you need a reboot. In pbeasy I force a reboot after partitioning every time. I thought pbeasy was very simple and clear, the pb script is much more involved and complicated, and does many more things. I have not heard anyone say if they are using the backup/restore features, or the pb script at all.

Anyway, I NEED YOUR INPUT! VALID SOLID REAL INFORMATION ON HOW TO MAKE IT BETTER....

:confused:

Stskeeps 2009-01-20 00:12

Re: Console-Tools Poll does it suck?
 
Two things: bootmenu.d support (See b-mans Mer installer)
And make it a control panel applet maybe

nemo 2009-01-20 00:17

Re: Console-Tools Poll does it suck?
 
I tried the tool before you added pbeasy and I couldn't get it to work, but that was due mostly to my shortcomings and inability to really understand all the options that were given.

Pbeasy however worked great.

TheGogmagog 2009-01-20 17:58

Re: Console-Tools Poll does it suck?
 
My only issue seemed to be operator error (didn't select ANY drive to partion). I haven't confirmed the sucess or the swap partion yet. I've been making sure my settings/dependancies were all loaded propery before trying again (it worked the first time, I just changed my mind on partion sizes). I'll make sure to keep notes, and run the checks you listed on the main release page.

FRZ 2009-01-20 18:45

Re: Console-Tools Poll does it suck?
 
I use pb and haven't look back. My system is working perfectly. The only issue I have which was mentioned in the other thread is the swap that has to be reset each boot. That is not a big issue though, since I hardly reboot. Otherwise great program, much appreciated, many thanks.

eliagp 2009-01-20 20:00

Re: Console-Tools Poll does it suck?
 
Worked ok with me, took me sometime to figure it out (pbeasy, yes I am a bit slow) but I got Maemo booting from SD.
Sometimes the boot does weird stuff when the battery runs out and I plug it to the charger, but nothing to be worried about, yet.
I kinda missed install tools at first, but once I understood how to use console, I don't mind.
Thanks for all the work put in this useful tools


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