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jacobmattison 2009-11-19 22:05

Interesting essay from Paul Graham about iPhone and mobile apps
 
http://www.paulgraham.com/apple.html

The part that really struck me, talking about how to get app developers to switch to a new platform and break the power of the iTunes App Store:

Quote:

If you could think of an application programmers had to have, but that would be impossible in the circumscribed world of the iPhone, you could presumably get them to switch.

That would definitely happen if programmers started to use handhelds as development machines—if handhelds displaced laptops the way laptops displaced desktops. You need more control of a development machine than Apple will let you have over an iPhone.

Could anyone make a device that you'd carry around in your pocket like a phone, and yet would also work as a development machine? It's hard to imagine what it would look like.
Um... I have a device that I carry around in my pocket like a phone and that works as a development machine. It's my N800.

Texrat 2009-11-19 22:48

Re: Interesting essay from Paul Allen about iPhone and mobile apps
 
Email sent to Paul. ;)

bigr3dd0g 2009-11-19 23:00

Re: Interesting essay from Paul Allen about iPhone and mobile apps
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jacobmattison (Post 382872)
Um... I have a device that I carry around in my pocket like a phone and that works as a development machine. It's my N800.

It doesn't replace your laptop though. Limited flash playback ability, no java support, low processor speed/memory. the experience you get on the n800 is no comparison to a desktop or laptop experience, whereas going from a dekstop to laptop there is no significant difference.

there is already a noticeable difference going from a laptop to a netbook in terms of usability and performance, let alone going to an n800 with a much slower processor etc. perhaps a device with a tegra chip would help..

gecebekcisi 2009-11-19 23:03

Re: Interesting essay from Paul Allen about iPhone and mobile apps
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bigr3dd0g (Post 382971)
perhaps a device with a tegra chip would help..

Or just the N900 'n its successors.

matthewcc 2009-11-19 23:19

Re: Interesting essay from Paul Allen about iPhone and mobile apps
 
Quote:

Wanted: Woman with hammer.
hrmmm how about a penguin with lasers for eyes?

hypnotik 2009-11-19 23:58

Re: Interesting essay from Paul Allen about iPhone and mobile apps
 
Paul Allen? huh?

bigr3dd0g 2009-11-20 00:00

Re: Interesting essay from Paul Allen about iPhone and mobile apps
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by hypnotik (Post 383095)
Paul Allen? huh?

wasn't paul allen the guy in american psycho film?

hypnotik 2009-11-20 00:02

Re: Interesting essay from Paul Allen about iPhone and mobile apps
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bigr3dd0g (Post 383104)
wasn't paul allen the guy in american psycho film?

co-founder of Microsoft

jjx 2009-11-20 00:06

Re: Interesting essay from Paul Allen about iPhone and mobile apps
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by bigr3dd0g (Post 382971)
whereas going from a dekstop to laptop there is no significant difference

Pro developers have at least quad core (probably multiple threads per core) desktops with 8GB+ RAM and triple-head displays each one running at 2000xsomething pixels.

It's really quite a leap down, even to the best laptop which is still portable :-)

But I still think it's worth it, to be able to work wherever I feel like :-)

jjx 2009-11-20 00:14

Re: Interesting essay from Paul Allen about iPhone and mobile apps
 
The premise of Paul Graham's article seems to apply quite well to the Ovi store too... While Maemo (so far) is quite open, Ovi seems to be quite the opposite, according to other recent threads around here.

Paul Graham's advice is something Nokia's strategists should take a long hard look at, real soon. While they still have potential advantage in this area. It won't last forever.


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