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dba 2010-04-04 17:23

Living in the past - MVS/370 on my N900
 
Back in the way early '80s, even before I became a dad, I was an operations and tech support manager for a mid-sized IBM mainframe installation. We had a room sized monster (by the standards of the time) 3031-AP with eight whopping megabytes of memory, two processors each running at a million instructions per second, and a bank of eight model-3380 disk drives at about 2-and-a-half gig apiece.

That was heady stuff, and we had a bisynch network that reached out to a hundred locations, a big batch workload and probably 150 simultaneous online users at any given time.

At the software center of our world was IBM's flagship operating system, MVS. I was once upon a time very well versed in that system, and considered myself an expert systems programmer. The source code was available back then, and in fact the original version of the operating system was in the public domain. Later versions were copyright IBM and chargeable, but in 1981 we were still running the "free" operating system on the unbelievably expensive hardware.

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Thirty years later we have cell phones that are vastly more powerful and have more storage than that entire machine room that I took care of Way Back When. So it occurs to me that I can revisit my misspent youth, and put MVS up on my new N900. Why not? I've got a couple of Bass Ales in the 'fridge and nothing on TV I care to watch.

So what do I need?
  • qole's Easy Debian
  • Roger Bowler's "Hercules" mainframe emulator
  • x3270, telnet and xterm
  • Volker Bandke's "Tur(n)key MVS" disk images
Easy Debian installed via app manager in a couple of clicks. Hercules, x3270, telnet and xterm installed in the Debian chroot with a couple of apt-get installs. The MVS system itself was a bit problematic; it is downloadable as an iso filesystem within a zip file. But the N900 Linux kernel doesn't have loop block support, and I couldn't mount the iso filesystem, so I mounted it on another Linux system and then copied the directory structure over to the N900 via scp.

Start the system with Volker's handy "xstartmvs" script, and IPL (um, "boot") MVS under Hercules - et voila! An '80s vintage MVS springs to life, with console support, a usable TSO, and several compilers.

I log on, edit and submit a quickie PL/I compile-link-and-go job ("Hello world"... of course), and 11 seconds later it completes. That's not very different from the response time I was getting on the room-sized 3031 in the days of yore, but I'm carrying this data center in my pocket.

It has no possible practical benefit, but enormous hoot value. I'm really enjoying this N900.

fms 2010-04-04 17:33

Re: Living in the past - MVS/370 on my N900
 
You can probably run it easier now, with Hercules emulator properly packaged for Maemo5.

Gerald101 2010-04-04 17:47

Re: Living in the past - MVS/370 on my N900
 
Thanks for posting this. I see there are VM/370 images I can :D try to run.

mail_e36 2010-04-04 22:50

Re: Living in the past - MVS/370 on my N900
 
Great story, post some screenshots if you can

thomas2010 2010-08-28 04:59

Re: Living in the past - MVS/370 on my N900
 
4 Attachment(s)
Accessing x3270 on nokia n900 with the help of easy debian

Refer the attachments for screen shots.

How to setup and use x3270 refer to http://x3270.bgp.nu/x3270-man.html.

The x3270 is connected to IBM Academic Initiative mainframe. Does not have an ID to access it.:o

http://talk.maemo.org/attachment.php...1&d=1282970948
http://talk.maemo.org/attachment.php...1&d=1282970961
http://talk.maemo.org/attachment.php...1&d=1282977543

Thanks

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qole 2010-08-28 05:29

Re: Living in the past - MVS/370 on my N900
 
Honestly, I often wonder what would life be if you couldn't do stuff for the "hoot value". Thanks for the great story!

delaroca 2010-08-29 11:42

Re: Living in the past - MVS/370 on my N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by dba (Post 595140)
Start the system with Volker's handy "xstartmvs" script, and IPL (um, "boot") MVS under Hercules - et voila! An '80s vintage MVS springs to life, with console support, a usable TSO, and several compilers.

Could you write a HOWTO for N900 users to accomplish all of this?

--denis

mail_e36 2010-08-30 02:51

Re: Living in the past - MVS/370 on my N900
 
And I thought this thread was dead... nice.

boby 2010-12-19 07:24

Re: Living in the past - MVS/370 on my N900
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by fms (Post 595157)
You can probably run it easier now, with Hercules emulator properly packaged for Maemo5.

hii bro this boby frm india can u pls help me to do ibm mainframes on n900.

boby 2010-12-19 07:28

Re: Living in the past - MVS/370 on my N900
 
i hav installed debian n hercules and now hav no clue to do wht.i hope u can take ltl time for hlping me


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