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jonarmani 2011-08-03 16:45

Reasons to move from Maemo/N900 to MeeGo?
 
The N9 and (especially) N950 look delicious as hell. My only problem is that I use my N900 for:

-Easy Debian
---MitM attacks
---Web server
-Packet Injection
-Game emulators [GBA, NES]

And I love having full Debian [EasyDebian] and Debian-based [Maemo 5] installations, using apt-get, rooting, etc.

So my questions are:

1) Is MeeGo as "hackable" and open?
2) Can I obtain root?
3) Will we be able to do packet injection on the N9/N950 hardware?
4) Will we have access to the thousands of Linux/Maemo apps like on the N900?

I especially look forward to having a device with NFC hardware I can mess around with. ^_^

skykooler 2011-08-03 16:51

Re: Reasons to move from Maemo/N900 to MeeGo?
 
1. For the most part, yes. I don't know about the wifi drivers, but I believe all hardware drivers for the N900 are community-written.
2. Yes right now, although the N950 is a developer device.
3. No idea (don't have one.)
4. Nokia would certainly hope so. As it stands, Meego uses a RPM based package management system, so I suppose perhaps you could use the ARM repos for Fedora or something.

jonarmani 2011-08-03 16:54

Re: Reasons to move from Maemo/N900 to MeeGo?
 
Yeah I figured nobody could answer the WiFi driver question until the devices were out in hackers' hands.

I forgot one question, although I believe I know the answer: We can write our own MeeGo apps in Qt creator?

marxian 2011-08-03 16:57

Re: Reasons to move from Maemo/N900 to MeeGo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by skykooler (Post 1063573)
As it stands, Meego uses a RPM based package management system, so I suppose perhaps you could use the ARM repos for Fedora or something.

Meego-Harmattan uses Debian packages. :)

marxian 2011-08-03 16:58

Re: Reasons to move from Maemo/N900 to MeeGo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jonarmani (Post 1063574)
I forgot one question, although I believe I know the answer: We can write our own MeeGo apps in Qt creator?

Yes. That's what those of us with an N950 are doing atm. News on my project is at http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=75197. :)

P.S I assume you mean Meego-Harmattan, rather than vanilla Meego? You can't (as far as I know) target vanilla Meego using Qt Creator.

jonarmani 2011-08-03 17:14

Re: Reasons to move from Maemo/N900 to MeeGo?
 
What on Earth is this vanilla non-sense?

sjgadsby 2011-08-03 17:17

Re: Reasons to move from Maemo/N900 to MeeGo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jonarmani (Post 1063589)
What on Earth is this vanilla non-sense?

"Vanilla MeeGo" would be the MeeGo core and a reference UX from MeeGo.com as opposed to the MeeGo core plus a custom UX and proprietary applications from a device manufacturer.

jonarmani 2011-08-03 17:42

Re: Reasons to move from Maemo/N900 to MeeGo?
 
... Yeah, I'll stick to network hacking, not programming.

jo21 2011-08-03 17:45

Re: Reasons to move from Maemo/N900 to MeeGo?
 
harmattan is deb based.

ui is better, faster.

HD video playback on n9

better virtual keyboard in potrait.
way better camera
the rest have been addressed by CSSU.

don_falcone 2011-08-03 18:34

Re: Reasons to move from Maemo/N900 to MeeGo?
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by jonarmani (Post 1063589)
What on Earth is this vanilla non-sense?

'vanilla' its definition lies in the reigns of: plain, untouched, original, pure... and is not "non-sense". It's quite common to say so around technical people.


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