Forum: Jolla1 & TOH
2013-12-22, 19:52
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Re: Jolla tracking numbers
Already in Finland there were people who ordered from DNA webstore a week ago and received Jollas before people in Finland who had pre-ordered from Jolla in May.
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Forum: Jolla1 & TOH
2013-12-22, 19:51
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Forum: Jolla1 & TOH
2013-12-22, 19:50
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Forum: Jolla1 & TOH
2013-12-20, 08:23
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Re: Jolla tracking numbers
Hear hear! Good recap lupastro.
All I want to add to that is this suggestion: Jolla, please respect the pre-order priority next time that you didn't now do. Respecting the queue is very valuable...
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Forum: Jolla1 & TOH
2013-12-19, 16:16
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Re: Jolla tracking numbers
That wasn't my point. My point was: people don't complain equally about different issues. Pre-order order failing would likely get more complaints than "some other thing" you mentioned.
I'm not...
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Forum: Jolla1 & TOH
2013-12-19, 12:43
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Re: Jolla tracking numbers
You don't think complaints are relative? You don't think one problem can be lesser - and less complained - than some other? Trust me, I've seen enough pre-order schemes to know not respecting the...
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Forum: Jolla1 & TOH
2013-12-19, 12:24
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Re: Jolla tracking numbers
When people registered, Jolla promised - on many occasions - to respect the pre-order priority. They have not. Orders from May are still not delivered while orders from September have been delivered....
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Forum: Jolla1 & TOH
2013-12-19, 12:20
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Re: Jolla tracking numbers
It was never 3-4 weeks from December 2nd, but from the date of final order (when people randomly finally got their webstore invites, which didn't come in pre-order order). So for most people 4 weeks...
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Forum: Jolla1 & TOH
2013-12-18, 21:41
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Re: Jolla tracking numbers
Are you saying Jolla wouldn't have lived if they'd given out information, though? I doubt you really think that.
Improved communications would have mended many fences in this case.
Anyway, I...
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Forum: Jolla1 & TOH
2013-12-18, 21:04
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Re: Jolla tracking numbers
That's the thing with openness and honesty, it means you are open and honest. I get it that secrecy sometimes benefits companies and in this case they thought it would. I don't think it worked out...
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Forum: Jolla1 & TOH
2013-12-18, 20:57
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Re: Jolla tracking numbers
...and not only that, Jolla didn't respect the pre-order order they promised to (not for webshop invites nor for actual shippings), so people who ordered their phones in September got them earlier...
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Forum: Jolla1 & TOH
2013-12-18, 20:11
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Re: Jolla tracking numbers
One more thought:
Jolla needs their own Xbox Major Nelson, but someone who addresses the community even on a lower level, because Jolla is a small start-up and self-proclaimed Unlike. Someone who...
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Forum: Jolla1 & TOH
2013-12-18, 20:01
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Re: Jolla tracking numbers
Sure, communications are hard.
Anyway, just to re-iterate my position:
The worst thing they could do is put PR people on the case. I think a big part of the problem so far is that they've tried...
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Forum: Jolla1 & TOH
2013-12-18, 19:38
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Re: Jolla tracking numbers
There is truth to that, sure. It all comes down to where to draw the line - for example, when new people join in, it may be fruitful to at least share ideas with a new participant that might bring...
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Forum: Jolla1 & TOH
2013-12-18, 19:36
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Re: Jolla tracking numbers
Then you are reading very selectively. There is much more than whining in this thread. :) I'm happy for you, that you feel good about Jolla. There is room for many opinions and views.
Just know...
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Forum: Jolla1 & TOH
2013-12-18, 19:29
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Re: Jolla tracking numbers
I can understand your frustration, I actually think it is similarly frustrating to read messages like yours in response time and time again. Wouldn't it be nicer if everyone just shared my opinion?...
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Forum: Jolla1 & TOH
2013-12-18, 19:27
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Re: Jolla tracking numbers
I get that. I disagree to an extreme extent. I think more communications would have made a dramatic difference for the better for Jolla and the community.
Sure, like I've said many times, had...
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Forum: Jolla1 & TOH
2013-12-18, 19:13
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Forum: Jolla1 & TOH
2013-12-18, 18:46
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Re: Jolla tracking numbers
I think we should not ask free stuff of Jolla, they are startup and we can understand that part. I think most of us do want to support Jolla.
But asking for information and, originally, to respect...
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Forum: Jolla1 & TOH
2013-12-18, 18:34
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Replies: 1,804
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Re: Jolla tracking numbers
Yes, your story is unfortunately a good summary: not respecting the pre-order priority (a May order not yet shipped, think of it) and then no communication. Not a good combo.
If it helps at all,...
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Forum: Jolla1 & TOH
2013-12-18, 18:20
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Replies: 1,804
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Re: Jolla tracking numbers
But they did see there was a delay beforehand, they just hoped it would go away. Cybette told us as much, that they didn't want to alarm people. I think they should have alarmed, openness is always...
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Forum: Jolla1 & TOH
2013-12-18, 18:11
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Forum: Jolla1 & TOH
2013-12-18, 18:10
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Re: Jolla tracking numbers
All we've heard from Jolla is that nobody can be pleased. I wouldn't be quite as sure as you that they are hearing right.
Though, I do hear you.
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Forum: Jolla1 & TOH
2013-12-18, 18:06
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Re: Jolla tracking numbers
I get that. However, what is - and has been - possible all this time is adding communication and a sense that they are truly listening and hearing. The more the community just pats them on the back...
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Forum: Jolla1 & TOH
2013-12-18, 17:34
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Replies: 1,804
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Re: Jolla tracking numbers
Much of the frustration here has been not knowing what is going on. When people get information, any kind that feels solid, that buys time and goodwill. Had Jolla kept a blog or microblog about the...
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