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Originally Posted by joerg_rw View Post
I don't think CSSU needs a formal TSG right now, as that TSG tends to consist of >50% of the active developers of CSSU.
I'm not an active developer in terms of code or maintenance contribution, but nobody will doubt I'm an active contributing member of #maemo-ssu, and if anything, I always defined my own role in this project as sth *very* close to a TSG though without any real powers aside from being an old ranting fart that can really annoy and be stubborn. ;-)

I think some of the developers appreciate and value this role I try to fulfill, and if council wants to assign some powers regarding talks to Nemein etc to me, I'd probably accept that additional burden. I don't however accept any role that would put me in a position where by definition my word counts more than that of any other developer, on any discussion inside CSSU. In simple words: I'm not anybodies boss, for the good or the bad. If anything, consider me (or any TSG, for that topic) a consultant and referee.

BTW I generally wonder if it's wise to have any active (in that project) developers in any TSG, as those usually are biased at least when it comes to their own project - this is a comment not targeted at the particular situation but rather meant to point at a general consideration.

Anyway Mohammad wasn't really the driving power of CSSU during the last 2 or 3 month (no criticism!) and also been the one with most 'powers' in CSSU so far, so what's it worth to nominate him for some TSG? Would that change anything?
It is a benefit for you to be involved, whether we have a TSG at some point or not. And of course any person has to be a volunteer and not an unwilling nominee. I do hope that people understand this discussion is intended to improve CSSU and figuring out how to help it, not as a criticism of it or any person in it.

Originally Posted by joerg_rw View Post
For sure one thing is fundamentally true: right now there's no defined process in or around CSSU that says what goes into CSSU and what will not. We got a 'manifest' stub which I frequently quote, but no process defined. We managed to handle this 'by acclamation' so far, mainly happening in #maemo-ssu, and usually involving one or 2, max 3 active devels of CSSU (do we have more than 3 anyway? ;-D) plus my rants and comments that are often requested for by those devels. This may or may not work for the future, but anyway it won't hurt if the devels and the founders of CSSU (yes there are those as well) would agree on some common sense regarding this, and write it down somewhere in 2 sentences so everybody can read it when (s)he feels like.

Now sorry if the above is not giving a clear notion and point of view, it was meant to dump some possibly disconnected random thoughts here.
I do think we should have a defined process for deciding what goes into CSSU and what does not, without anybody being anybody's boss. Maybe this is something as simple as having meetings on IRC at regular times. But it could also be bug triage, etc. And no matter what form it takes I think you could help with it.

I think your comments are good even without a point of view - idle thoughts are often constructive.
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