The N8 and 808 runs Symbian. Symbian existed long before Nokia set it's floppy fingers into it. It was used on Sony Ericsson, Samsung and Motorola smartphones for many years. It is only a couple of years ago since Nokia bought all of Symbian. So yes, the Lumia 800 is just as much "Nokia proper" (or not) as the 808 and N8 is or isn't. Following your logics, none of the Galaxys are Samsung Proper. None of the Xperias are Sony(Ericsson) proper, none of ... and so on. You are talking nonsense.