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Originally Posted by Estel View Post
szopin, don't You realize that all "let's buy it from Nokia or hire people to reverse engineer it" ideas are so expensive, that it's cheaper to design our own, 100% open device from scratch (with possibility of using existing open or mostly open devices as implementation references).

BTW, starting with less than 1GB of RAM is not worth the effort - seriously. Yet, it is totally off-topic here.

/Estel
We're at the point where it's clearly true that you might as well go onto more open hardware ANYWHERE else with a new non-Maemo but Linux-based OS. Possibly something more Debian-like than Maemo was allowed to be.


Originally Posted by misterc View Post
all this hardware seeking is exactly why i think NOKIA is Maemo's only chance
traditional GNU/Linux distros don't have that problem as they are running on a standard PC, as they are sold by 100s of thousands every day.
even a small project like Trinity Desktop Environment (the continuation of KDE 3.5.10 since KDE upgraded to KDE 4) can survive, only with one dedicated coordinator, a bunch of ppl helping directly and the open source community contributing... they know for 100% sure TDE will run on a standard PC, even with proprietary video card, as long as they remain in line with the x86 / x86_64 architecture.
this simply does not exist for mobiles or Internet Tablets, alas.
thus the dependance upon a manufacturer, in Maemo's case NOKIA.
for the better or the worse
This is why I'm particularly disappointed in Maemo! I was sold a device that was advertised over, and over as being OPEN SOURCE based and LINUX based... and the 'based' part was used as scamming term to protect themselves from the very OPEN SOURCE communities they were trying to attract into their platform instead of using it as a true BASIS for open-sourcing. Nokia bragged about how much they participated in kernel development and bragged a LOT about openness but, ultimately, they've proven to be an incredibly disappointing affair.

Once again, you saw the reply from Nokia-proper: Too bad.
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