Didn't like nieldk's response as he actually repeated from sudden of nowhere, though he had chance to talk before, and he used to insult. And than again even in apology: he still blame those, as they say "~4". But i thought it is pointless as at least one council talked honestly (i hope). But now Estel gives it another turn, when i think it's better you decide between each other first why and who and when and than straight the story up.