While all you say, in my opinion, is quite true. I must add. 1. The issues argued here will be dealt with on the council. 2. Closing this thread, its not a 'threat'. But the arguments being thrown is circular. I think the important bits have been mentioned (and commented) over and over again, and to my opinion, it doesnt serve a purpose anymore. Except, for posting the outcome of the council discussion on personal attacks, how to avoid this in the future, etc. etc.