You're an idiot Lumiaman. Analyst estimate from 2011 - midway through Elops destruction of Nokia Mobile. "Here’s a quick sum-of-the-parts analysis. After yesterday’s hair cut Nokia’s overall enterprise value is about $20 billion. The Navteq part of the business (purchased for $8.1 billion in 2008) could get a value of $3 billion (based on about 3x sales) and the value of Nokia Siemens networks could be at $6b (less than 0.5x sales). That makes Nokia’s phone business worth about $11 billion." That would mean before Elop the Mobile division would have been worth more than that. Before Elop they could have created a seamless migration strategy for all Symbian customers to an Android device or equivalent - QT migration path for apps for instance and retained all customers and achieved a far far greater return than where they are today with a paltry $7b. The $7b today is the losers prize. rgds