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Originally Posted by Estel View Post
I appreciate your work and like your optimism, so not mean to discourage at all... But as history of such efforts have shown, I'm afraid that, if we add up all the bits to have Maemo-comparable battery usage in Debian-like system (thus, implementing power-saving features and rules) - not to mention such "fancy" things like phone functionality - we will end up with something like Mer. Realizing, that we've re-created work that others did already, years ago.

One of the Mer developers just told me, once (in another "Debian-as-alternative-to-Maemo" thread), that it starts with patch to ignore screen input when locked. Then, it proceeds to actually shutting down touchpad (which eats lotta hell of power, if compared to really idle standby), not only ignoring it. Then you add... And, after months of work what started as mainstream any-distro on N900/whatever device, becomes a patched together frankenstein, or, at best, a Mer clone.

/Estel
If I wanted Mer I would be using and contributing to Nemo. Whilst I appreciate the work that the Mer team have put into their project, I'm afraid it's not an acceptable solution for my usage. The beauty of Debian is that it's very modular and components can easily be swapped out with an "apt-get install". Try running an init system other than systemd on Mer. It can be done but not without porting effort and even so, I doubt it they would accept it as part of their project as they intentionally have a very specific base system. Mer is also plagued by being business-focused which means they stick to outdated GPLv2 packages to allow vendors to Tivoise their products. Not to mention the array of software that Debian has accumulated over the years which you will never see in Mer.

I realise there will be many patches involved to achieve the power saving performance of Maemo but I don't see why it has to be a Frankenstein. Focusing on a specific Debian release means that it will be far less of a Frankenstein than the Etch+Lenny+Squeeze monster we like to refer to as Fremantle.

The Debian effort will be far from a Mer clone. We may have to recreate a lot of the work that others have done in Mer but it will be worthwhile in the end in order have a mobile operating system that excels where Mer and Maemo don't.
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DebiaN900 - Native Debian on the N900. Deprecated in favour of Maemo Leste.

Maemo Leste for N950 and N9 (currently broken).
Devuan for N950 and N9.

Mobile devices with mainline Linux support - Help needed with documentation.

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