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Originally Posted by joerg_rw View Post
Who defined including whole maemo garage electorate as being mandatory?
Again: Nobody.

Originally Posted by joerg_rw View Post
...usually it's council that suggests what to do and HiFo has no power over council and community and usually is supposed to execute what THE COMMUNITY (represented by council) asks for (unless illegal).
That doesn't change really. Again, please read bylaws §7 (5):
The Board of Directors executes the Council's and General Assembly's rulings.
It's more like (GA next to Council > Board)

Originally Posted by joerg_rw View Post
Why does any e.V need to abolish that
It does not. See above

Originally Posted by joerg_rw View Post
and instead have an unelected group of privileged members called GA, appointed (or rejected!!!)
Again, it's not instead, but next to it.
Anyway, those brave souls that are willing to share some time for community work indeed have the privilage to become a regular member, just like any other community fella as well, everybody is welcome!

Originally Posted by joerg_rw View Post
by some unelected...
Wrong again, of course board gets elected, in a 1-year cycle just like with HiFo. Besides that, GA or Council can call for reelections or a meeting where things can be decided upon ANY TIME.

Originally Posted by joerg_rw View Post
self-appointed entity inside the e.V. which are deciding
YOU know better, YOU voted on them... wrong as can be!

Originally Posted by joerg_rw View Post
instead of THE MAEMO COMMUNITY?
NO, you got it ALL WRONG!

Originally Posted by joerg_rw View Post
I don't see why any e.V cannot act exactly like the HiFo concept we publicly discussed and agreed upon.
Because...
Originally Posted by joerg_rw View Post
You need a GA?
Bingo!

Originally Posted by joerg_rw View Post
fine! have a 6 members that are authorized by elections forming that GA,
How exactly "have" those 6? Why 6?
No matter how you turn it, you CAN NOT get voted in as regular member, that has to be done upon own choice/request BY LAW. And the founders HAVE TO remain members until they quit or they get discarded for turning against MC eVs' statutes, aims or bylaws, by law.
BTW, membership generally MUST be granted to everybody unless there are severe concerns, otherwise board would act unlawfully by discrimination.

Originally Posted by joerg_rw View Post
and make them promise to always listen to THE MAEMO COMMUNITY and not start own activity abusing their privileged position.
That will happen self-regulatory hopefully. Anybody turning against MC eVs' statutes, aims or bylaws gets discarded upon either Boards' or GAs' decision. At least that's what they're able to.

Originally Posted by joerg_rw View Post
after all they are supposed to be members of the community and not elected to be the (lifetime) emperors of (the huge discriminated rest of) community.
What an immense load of nonsense in such a few words... Again, READ ABOVE to realize board gets elected year after year by the pack that cares enough about community and that is willing to commit officially and to probably spend a buck a year.

Originally Posted by joerg_rw View Post
This is where discrimination and abolishing/killing of the original maemo community starts.
No, this is what the law sets. Beyond that, actually working on this **** is, while bawling about it when it's too late isn't?

Originally Posted by joerg_rw View Post
...when you want to turn a FOSS community of (depending on the way you count) ~6000 to ~100,000 members into a club of a few dozen appointed by a governing entity, paying membership fees, not concerned about their anonymity, members of a club.
That never was the plan, but it turns out partially that's a requirement for an eV indeed. KDE for example managed to do so at least, in a similar way.

Originally Posted by joerg_rw View Post
I will not contribute and participate any further... blabla...
BR
Bye maemo
jOERG
(a last time with councilor signature, though as a sort of minority report since other council members like to disagree on most of my concerns)
Leaving it up to the readers interpretation if that's a resignation or just another smoke grenade is embarrassing. Not worth a councilor IMHO,
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