@pasih i assumed wrong lol Mine stays on screen aswell after releasing the ctrl key and have to press v or c to get it to go away @Tone didn't i see you use it in the vid you made outside mypaint and it changed color according to the background. Maybe i'm wrong about that, but i tried it and it didn't work for me with the ctrl key pressed down e: @Tone thanks for the tip about the toggle eraeser i couldn't find the value in the thread that someone else posted a while back. Found out yesterday about the ctrl arrows to rotate. I wanted to move the canvas and it rotated? Clumbsy thumbs Oh and thanks for the info on drag canvas