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I'm wading into the morass here too...
looks like fun
I concur with Wiki
In fact I go further.
I do believe in the individuals right to protect themselves.
That is something I think everyone here can agree on.
But an individual thinking they can comment anonymously.. express their views...and expect to "stay" anonymous ...and that the result of the state of technological security today is somehow the fault or responsibility of either "Powers" or "Authorities" or "Governments" or "whatever bad people/ groups" or "Maemo" or "TMO" ....and wish or demand some sort of compromise or allowance or whathaveyou...alllll because ...?
Because people wish to post from a position of anonymity in a public forum?
How does any open and accepting community embrace anonymity?
Not well ...when it boils down to it.
I think either an individual should be open and honest and simply accept the consequences for their words and actions uttered and done in the full view of the public...*
or ...don't bother saying a thing.


And please please please no one rear the specter of being "monitored" and "recorded "by your connection without safeties like tor...yet again.
Because the moment you get off your smart device or computer thinking you are so anonymous and walk outside your home...
there are countless cameras with footage of you walking down the street...there are drones everywhere now ..there are dashcams , atm's, store cameras, parking lot security cameras, cameras at street intersections, satellites in the heavens, and more..and don't forget there is everyone else walking beside you with their bloody iphone ...just hoping you'll snap from societal stresses.. so that they get to film you as the cops are hauling you away for attempting to go on a killing spree with a blunt tongue depressor and put the vid up on youtube before you are even "booked" at the station...as their "claim-to-fame" and subsequent hope to do the talk show circuit....

And if that isn't enough...All the people who have been "smart" to start using tor within the last few weeks, months, year, years, half decade...more...you don't think that the powerful governments of this planet do not have files on you and everyone else "predating" your and everyone else' new interest in security?
really?

Sooo...either man-up and speak your mind responsibly and join in community dialogue..like other people do.
or
do not engage in public discourse and remain anonymous as you wish or you truly, justifiably, and understandably need to be.
But I do believe the ability to have one's cake and eat it too is rapidly ending.



*which people are being put to task with now...
and in fact ...
now sites are going to be held responsible for the utterances of their members and their behaviour...directly.
Hell of a legal precedent was set..
I posted about the landmark decision here in the forum..

This means ...the boys at the helm of the good ship tmo have to steer this ship well or the site is held accountable...
and that means essentially no crap people...no hate mongering...or racism ...or ..well alotta the bad stuff people should know better than to speak anyway..... .
Anyway..in light of the fact sites are now legally accountable for the people in them...members, posts in their forums...etc.

I see the issue of needing a firm hand concerning tor...
in tandem with the issues of stringent moderation.
Both directly pertain to our sites safety, accountability and longevity.

I don't see it as a "desire" or a "wish" or whatever could be taken out of context from my words... that is truly not relevant .
It is what the civilization around us and their courts of law are beginning to demanding of us now.
That is what is truly relevant.
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