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Originally Posted by hardy_magnus View Post
Originally Posted by juiceme View Post
Not true; I don't have Android and I don't need it.
u must be using nokia n900, n9 or freerunner. i have nothing but respect for you people.
I use N810/N900 sometimes, N9 rarely and SFOS often.


Originally Posted by hardy_magnus View Post
Originally Posted by juiceme View Post
Now before you go and jump to point that libhybris uses android drivers, that is completely different thing; drivers are drivers and contain nothing related to the android runtime system.
i doubt android drivers, everything related to android is a security concern. i dont have any proof.
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/new...of-hp-laptops/ is just an example.
there is a possibility that there could be something fishy like this in the android drivers too.
I am aware of that case with HP, just as similarily one of my co-workers discovered a trojain in windows codec pack that installed itself in browser when used.

The problem with Windows is that any code you run in the system, whether it be in the drivers or other system components or in userland software can pretty much access anything; The system is very opaque to the user as it is made up of binary components which have undocumented and convoluted relationship to each other, there are just too many places to hide.

For the libhybris case; android drivers are used in such a way that it is if not impossible, anyway very difficult that a trojan hidden there could do any harm; When the library is compiled only the interfaces needed by the Mer libraries are linked to. A potential baddie there cannot install system hooks which would enable it to perform its acts.
(But of course this means you need to compile it all yourself, don't ever trust binaries given to you by someone else...)


Originally Posted by hardy_magnus View Post
Originally Posted by juiceme View Post
Yo wot? I have not seen anything promoted like that, can you be more specific?
jolla showcased x with their own OS in the last WMC and that was promoting . imaginary unicorn arrows were pointing towards x and the geek people started buying x like its the last good thing left on the planet.
That was promoting the HW platform, not Android. In my mind that was the exact opposite; they are promoting a way to liberate a device with nice HW from the shackles of a tainted OS.
This is a Noble Act, methinks


Originally Posted by hardy_magnus View Post
Originally Posted by juiceme View Post
I cannot comment on that since I don't need to use android on anything. There are plenty of people who think that one should run some specific OS or environment to accomplish what they want to do; In my opinion this is pretty uninformed behaviour.
i never sync my contacts online, i like to copy them onto the sim card but i cannot do this in sailfish. game over. thats it.
And you are wrong again, sorry.
rsync -av /home/nemo/ toosa.swagman.org:/home/nemo/
Better still, run it in crontab.


Originally Posted by hardy_magnus View Post
Originally Posted by juiceme View Post
I don't know about f-droid which probably makes me a non-power-user, then
It is true that most of the high-end mobile hardware comes preinstalled with android but this is pretty much like most high-end computers come preinstalled with Windows or MacOS... it doesn't mean one has to keep the OS the device comes with
the thing you have said is as easy as 1-2-3 for computers. you dont like win install linux, you dont like linux install another linux distro but not that easy for mobile hardware.
It does not need to be easy, the fun things never are easy.
To me it is enough that it is doable.
 

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