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Originally Posted by billranton View Post
Again, it's not that they need to jailbreak it. It's that jailbreaking shouldn't even be a thing. Locked down operating systems are for DVD players, games consoles and other peasantry. For your specifics, see everything that people got around aegis to do.
So... nothing specific still. Because you can jailbreak something and that you have to, as you had stated are different things. Please support your initial statement. So far you have not.

Doesn't really matter. I like what I like, and I don't judge the superiority of an OS based on its popularity, nor do I need the world to comply with it.
But you will need some popularity for it to continue to exist.

I expect a bit better from people who know their way around the insides of a computer though. It breaks my heart when I see someone who used to enjoy tinkering with things give up and fill their lives with Apple stuff.
And I hate it when folks make a simple task into something far more complex because they like to feel superior because they've memorized some esoteric commands in order to do something that's relatively simple yet fulfilling to a very small minority and call it the best way without any regard to that added complexity addition to wasted time in ones day.

So why did you start this discussion?
Because I could. Now, why haven't you given me one specific answer yet?

You declared BB10 to be 'superior' to Sailfish, then retreat into different strokes when that is challenged? It's always going to be hot in that kitchen.
Nope. I gave my details. I double dog dare you to do the same. Sailfish browser is second class, renders a lot of HTML5 sites incorrectly and defaults to mobile on the tablet. The pkcon vs zypper install methods oft do not capture all dependencies if you've inherited a shitty program from Openrepos. The permissions are done great, but that's really the brilliance of Mer. The UI at times still lags. And above all, it's unlikely to be around on many devices and/or supported for much too long unless Jolla works out all of their problems - actually BB10 shares this one feature.

Doesn't seem hot in this kitchen at all. I can answer direct questions. Prove that you can.

Edit: I see exactly what you're trying to do. Do not shove this into some discussion where you've yet to discuss the advantages or disadvantages of the things that make an OS important to you meanwhile dismissing anything else stated that you do not agree with as unimportant. I've stated the two cases more than once in this thread and throughout my tenure here at ITT/TMO. Different strokes for different folks. But you have yet to prove that jailbreaking is necessary. I've had a BB10 dev device since day one, never had to jailbreak it. I've sideloaded everything imaginable, but never jailbreak. I've jailbroke my PSP, GameCube (yep, it plays Japanese games), many embedded OS systems, even my Pioneer car stereo. But I've not had to do that to my BB10 device in order to do much of anything. Want to change the default Twitter app - there's instructions do just that. There's other things that alter the defaults of the OS - you're talking about much... well, ****. You've yet to answer.

Please feel free to do so. Do not change the course of this discussion. I stated my unpopular opinion, I can back it up. You've retorted; yet to respond fully.

Nothing personal, but you've shown me nothing in this regard yet. All I've seen are some rather esoteric needs that really equate to what your parameters are... sadly, I stated as much in the need for granular control. It's important to you. I get that. But in the end, you cannot defend your stance for jailbreaking... yet.

Last edited by gerbick; 2016-02-17 at 00:44.
 

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