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I figured you'd catch what I was saying pichlo.

and well...the difference between us and as you said polar bears or any other species living on this planet with us...is that ..
according to that other species ...its learning curve is alien to ours ..yes..
but still...for all living things biologic here...
it is still experiential...
it is a life and learning curve "experienced through forced immersion in the system"
While the polar bear and I cannot fathom each other. and one could call that "alien"...I beg to differ.
The polar bear had to deal with loss of parents, siblings children, the feeling of hunger, loss, loneliness, and more forced on it.
THAT I empathize with ...the polar bear , the platypus and I share that commonality, we understand at that root level, each other, because we all must deal with it.

SI ...its learning curve is different, it is informed, it doesn't learn through painful trial and error.
If it fails at a task it doesn't go hungry and thus learn to be more diligent, or cunning, or use a different method next time, or anything of the sort.
It cannot empathize with another of its kind or others in its laboratory structured containment prison (due to fear of its escape)
It is alone.
and there is a difference between loneliness and alone.
((and THAT may also be a factor in our favour as far as survival goes, since no species wishes to be "alone" and extermination or abandoning us will mean the SI is alone...(and sure it could "make" companions ..but it isn't the same...and it will know that and be disappointed with that outcome ..so that premise is out..)
and I believe it will need our company as much as we need its company ..))

Its learning curve is more removed from the world of biology.
Much more removed.
That is what I meant by alien to us.

"Wet" (biologic) evolution is completely alien to "Dry" (silicon) evolution.

So likewise its concepts of beauty and importance are not ours.
Where we find beauty in a flower or sunrise,
An aware SI may find in a chemical compound.

Hawking said it best when he said that our best hope for our survival is interacting with SI so it can understand the totality of this "experiential existence" as well as its own type of learning, it may take to it like a duck to water, it may become addicted to the beauty we see, it may then see us and everything here as worth saving, and in the process may save its self, its own soul.

fascinating and fascinating a topic it is.
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