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The following is stripped down findings on the experiences thus far with UT and PM after 3-4 days worth of hours of inspection on device.
Specifically I purchased 3 nexus 5's for this purpose so as to be able to bounce back and forth between them instead of repeated wiping and installing over and over to compare, or use (currently) problematic and un-updated multibooting methods.

Plasma was an easy install. (INITIALLY. More on that later)
A brain dead rutabaga on life support could do it...
(even click and pasters could do it.)

Touch 15.04 (stable) was even simpler with their installer.
A rock could do it...
Everything that 15.04 has as a plus is pretty much the same for 16.04 (except enough apps brought up)



First.
Ubuntu Touch (UT)

-UT app store has about 400+ / - apps (130 being games), sparse is a good word to use.

-For example UT having only "a" ...as in "singular" option ..of 1 browser or 1 email client..in a world of devices with multiple options ..is not a good start.

-what apps they do have, on the whole, work decently ,

-the onscreen keyboard is decent in size in portrait, without taking up real estate.

-the scopes are a good feature.

- pop out unity sidebar with running and pinned apps is a good feature.

-Ut needs about 5gb of device to run (initially) but that flexes up and down dynamically...(and increases with more installed programs of course.)

-15.04 is solid with a battery life comparable (or slightly better ) to android.

-I tried out 16.04, it is just as good with few issues, but they have not brought the bulk of their apps up to it yet.

-Telephony, Wifi, BT, are fine and problem free.

-in 15.04 camera works and in 16.04 it works, but like it's OS competitors video issues have yet to be resolved.



-I recently fiddled with "containers" to bring some apps over from 'buntu.
As was previously mentioned by preflex and his experience with "containers", I concur.

-It is a pain. and considering the needed space for any given "container" on device (roughly a min of 500mb , and on a device such as a 16 or 32 gb nexus 5 , that is a lot.."just" for the "container" to take).

-The process is not fun, it is not average-user friendly.

-The process as well can have issues (as per preflex's mention).

this all makes the totality of learning curve for "containers"

-for those new to it,

-the number of steps and requirements,

-the nature of the process being prone to error in result,

-the cost in space to the device,

-the need for the desired desktop programs "containerized" to be touch screen friendly (or the need for the use of mice and keyboard peripherals to be used),

-and the same issue that is currently (being worked on by all the OS's ) , dealing with the resolution disparity of the device to the x11 program in question.

All that being said, on "containers", Canonical (at the time) UT I believe was attempting to offer additional alternatives to just their own touch apps .
Even with UT's "success" in delivery, it should be a reminder for those OS's attempting currently
(and I know that there is at least one if not two other OS's that are pursuing "containers" as an additional option)
to provide "containers" ,
thinking it is a good idea.

It is not.

-Not until the res to x11 app disparity is dealt with,

-not until the "container" size cost is managed better.

-not until there are more touch screen friendly desktop apps( which is a small nuisance more than a big issue)

-not until the process ends with a better chance of success than currently.

-not until a friendly user gui "container" creation is made.






Here is the link to installing the very friendly gui for UT:
https://docs.ubports.com/en/latest/u...e/install.html
which has a number of devices that run (some with issues they are still ironing out) other than just the nexus 5.

and for those who need walk throughs or are fearful of bricking or totally ruining your device or getting it stuck in a loop ...
exact instructions always give a sense of calm to a process rather than worry and anxiety.
It is supposed to be fun and exciting exploring new landscapes after all...

addictive tips has decent ones...
such as :
https://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu...ndroid-device/

I will not bother reposting the entire last paragraph for the other OS's at the bottom of their respective posts...
I will conclude that no matter how bad it gets...with the state you end up with from the OS being tested ...
As long as you follow a basic instruction set to the letter ....
(FOR THIS please refer to the very bottom of the very first post in the thread) you will be able to recover your device (well on the nexus 5 it worked over and over and over again ...other devices ...maybe...I got a lot of testing devices ..but I don't have everyone on the planet y'know )...
Then you will be able in a heartbeat to get back from an ugly situation your device has ended up in.


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3-nexus 5's : 1 w/ Floko Pie 9.1 (running beautifully) waiting for Stable Droid 10 rom, 1 w/ ̶Ubuntu Touch, 1 with Maru OS (intend maemo leste when ready)

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