the shipment dates listed in geizhals have been there since before nokia announced shipment, and havent changed since then. that means most german shops didnt receive an official announcement yet. also, the shipment dates listed would reflect the shipping date for new orders. if you preordered, those dates would not propably mean anything. expansys has a shipping date shortly after nokia webshop listed. that could mean that other retailers would indeed be shipping a few days after nokiashop. @ mzanetti: cut the arrogance! you arent helping.