I must eat my words because a good point appeared. The number 6800 comes from: 4000 people sacked + 2800 symbian developers moved to accenture (read: you can say no more subcontracting work and it is accenture who has to pay the devs, not nokia). It was a straightforward conclusion: 1. drop symbian 2. lay off 6800 employers from inhouse the symbian figure probably isn't that big alltogether when reviewed by todays numbers: 4000 blue collar people sacked around western area and replaced with chinese. now when doing some research, I found out following: There are some references that symbian has required approximately 3000 peoples work but gsmarenas story tells that there was ~3000 symbian developers (2800 in my numbers) + 4000 other employers, http://www.gsmarena.com/nokia_transf...-news-2566.php care to quess the size of MeeGo R&D? how many promilles from the whole amount? and another article in finnish about brain drain that says nokia has 13000 employers and ~50% (tolerance?!?) of them working on Symbian/MeeGo http://www.taloussanomat.fi/informaa...at/20112959/12 That is pretty close to my initial 6800 people IMO...