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Originally Posted by pichlo View Post
How old are you, if you don't mind me asking? Because try as I might, I just cannot see anything shaking foundations:
  • A small, cube-shaped computer? Tick, seen dozens of those.
  • A thin client with no storage and all data in the "cloud"? Yawn. Back in the 1970s, those were called "terminals" connected to a "mainframe". In 1990s, they were called "network computers". Nowadays, the same idea is back again. Nothing is new, only the name.
  • A new company coming up with a lot of hype and hardly any details? Yeah, right, I haven't seen that one before!

So, please, pray tell me. What is so foundations-shaking about yet another one?
Well, I am old enough to understand that yes-no arguments based on purely personal opinions on yet released devices on internet forums are rarely fruitful, but I will try Only from my personal point of view, however.


A small, cube-shaped computer? Tick, seen dozens of those.

I have seen many small cube shaped computers also. Never one with newbie programmable touchscreen, however. But yes, there are many of those. And I have seen many of these used in ordinary peoples home. Quite often they are running OS X or windows. I think I might even have seen one Web OS.

A thin client with no storage and all data in the "cloud"? Yawn. Back in the 1970s, those were called "terminals" connected to a "mainframe". In 1990s, they were called "network computers". Nowadays, the same idea is back again. Nothing is new, only the name.

There are also many devices connected to the cloud. There are even OS's like Googles Chrome and several others that yet/still have not that big names that are cloud based OS's. No argument there. I have tried several of them. Never have I seen one in the wild to be used by some random fellow. There are also cloud services that flawlessly integrate to, say, windows 7 for example. Like the Dropbox. So yes, there are many devices, services and applications that are already connected to cloud.

A new company coming up with a lot of hype and hardly any details? Yeah, right, I haven't seen that one before!

I am sorry, was this meant as an argument of mine or in general? Hopefully not as mine as I did not make anything this kind. I see no reason to answer to this even if you pray it from me.


Soooo, in general I seem to agree with you, but yet I think that they might have shot in shaking the foundations and you think they have nothing. Well, we could both be right and wrong, maybe even in the same time. I will try to make my point with short story that I think everyone here will know.

Back in the days I was talking with several Nokia engineers in a room. We were talking about iPhone and I think it were N95 ( someone can check if the years match). I was representing sales and marketing point of view and they the HW. I got crushed. There were absolutely nothing that iPhone could do better besides zooming from their view. Everything the iPhone could do N95 already did and had done. Touchscreen was old news, true internet browser was old news, having great design was old news, technical specs were not anything special.

I had to say yes to all of their arguments. And when I said Yes, but everything put together like this, is what the consumer wants. I was not believed and thankfully it would not have mattered if I were. I would feel really bad now but we were only soldiers and cannon food. My conscience is clear , but we do know how this story goes on.

Consumer success is never "only" about the technical capabilities or about being the First. It is about getting it right for your targeted marked, among other things. I believe that personal computers, operating systems and devices are slowly coming to their next evolutionary step. I have absolutely no idea what it will be. It probably won't be Solu, but there is always the possibility. Their product is different than that of HP, Dell, Apple or their OS as heavily Cloud leaning solution is different than OS X, Windows, general Linux Distro. Also their revenue modeling is somewhat different.

Only from my personal view, that I like to express here, I want to believe in companies and individuals who try something new. Being it totally new from scratch, being it putting together elements other have developed but not tried together, or being it only new kind of philosophy to do ordinary tasks. I personally believe that there is the chance of shaking the foundations.

Just as a note. I don't want to start further argument on this. This was only my POV and others are as good or bad. But I feel that when someone prays for answer everyone needs to answer.

P.S. I am no smart or wise man, but I have sat and listened to many have conversations and arguments. I have also spoken with really old people. Throwing age-card is never a sign of a gentlemen/fine lady, but a sign of poor judgement and arrogant mindset.
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