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	Kralisec	2006-07-16 , 20:16
	Posts: 25 \| Thanked: 0 times \| Joined on Mar 2006 @ France	#1

Hi,

After a look to forum, I solve my mistral-beta problem
and add new repository to my list,
after this I application list give 1 update: ok, no problem.

But "apt-get install ssh" show me 19 applications to upgrade,
apt-get upgrade propose to begin with 17 applications,
I said yes and after a 3mn of download my 770 shutdown ...

Now I'm in infinite boot loop mode with about 30s time usable ...

Since I have enough time to copy a script from mmc card
and start it, I do a ps -ef > /media/mmc1/result.txt

this is result:

PID Uid VmSize Stat Command
1 root 484 S init [2]
2 root SWN [ksoftirqd/0]
3 root SW [watchdog/0]
4 root SW< [events/0]
5 root SW< [khelper]
6 root SW< [kthread]
22 root SW< [kblockd/0]
36 root SW< [omap_uwire]
42 root SW< [khubd]
93 root SW [pdflush]
94 root DW [pdflush]
96 root SW< [aio/0]
95 root SW [kswapd0]
171 root SW< [cqueue/0]
172 root SW< [kseriod]
205 root SW [mtdblockd]
239 root SW< [krfcommd]
248 root SW [mmcqd]
278 root 540 R < dsme -d -l syslog -v 4 -p /usr/lib/dsme/libst
283 root 540 S dsme -d -l syslog -v 4 -p /usr/lib/dsme/libst
284 root 540 S dsme -d -l syslog -v 4 -p /usr/lib/dsme/libst
285 root 312 S /usr/bin/bme
333 root DWN [jffs2_gcd_mtd4]
352 root 416 S < /sbin/udevd --daemon
565 nobody 652 S < /usr/sbin/dnsmasq -k -i lo -a 127.0.0.1 -z
579 messageb 1320 S < /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --system
584 root 1492 S < /sbin/mce
588 messageb 1468 D /usr/lib/gconf2/gconfd-2
594 root 3248 S < /usr/bin/Xomap -mouse /dev/input/mouse0 -mous
618 user 236 S < /usr/sbin/temp-reaper
621 user 1128 S < /usr/bin/dbus-daemon --session
625 user 2628 S < /usr/lib/sapwood/sapwood-server
629 user 2068 S < /usr/bin/matchbox-window-manager -theme defau
640 root 1112 S /usr/sbin/dsp_dld -p --disable-restart -c /li
659 root 1128 S < /usr/sbin/hcid -n
661 root 492 S < /usr/sbin/sdpd -n
690 root 1016 S < /usr/bin/bme-dbus-proxy -N
707 root 1364 S /usr/bin/osso_hss
712 root 632 S /usr/bin/esd
733 root 1220 S < /usr/bin/btcond -l
751 root 1500 S < /usr/sbin/ke-recv
757 root 1288 S < /usr/sbin/wlancond
760 nobody 1056 S < /usr/bin/btpin -l
763 root 1484 S < /usr/sbin/icd
784 user 2112 S /usr/libexec/dbus-vfs-daemon
786 user 1844 S < /usr/bin/maemo-launcher --daemon --quiet
804 user 2112 S /usr/libexec/dbus-vfs-daemon
805 user 2112 S /usr/libexec/dbus-vfs-daemon
838 user 356 S < /usr/bin/maemo_af_desktop
839 user 8748 S < /usr/bin/maemo_af_desktop
845 user 356 S < /usr/bin/osso-connectivity-ui-conndlgs
846 user 4072 S < /usr/bin/osso-connectivity-ui-conndlgs
849 user 356 S /usr/bin/hildon-input-method
851 user 7132 S /usr/bin/osso-xterm
854 user 6172 S /usr/bin/hildon-input-method
857 user 600 S < /usr/bin/clipboard-manager
861 root 1384 S /usr/bin/ias
888 systemui 5040 S < /usr/bin/systemui
889 user 612 S gnome-pty-helper
892 user 708 S sh
893 user 7132 S /usr/bin/osso-xterm
894 user 7132 S /usr/bin/osso-xterm
912 root 1740 S /usr/bin/osso_alarm
919 root 68 S /usr/bin/retutime -s
920 user Z < [osso-media-serv]
921 user 528 S /bin/sh ./t
922 user 620 R ps -ef

Is'it some kill I can do to stop the expected shutdown ?

or someone can send me a script I can start to see mode deeply what arrive ...

without any information, I will flash back to original final 2006,
but it's also time to see what arrive ...

Any idea ???

Thank you,
Laurent.

Last edited by Kralisec; 2006-07-16 at 20:22.

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	Kralisec	2006-07-17 , 19:20
	Posts: 25 \| Thanked: 0 times \| Joined on Mar 2006 @ France	#2

Hi,

Someone can post his own "ps -ef" result from a fresh booted 770 that I can compare ?
(from 30 Jun 2006)

Thanks,
Laurent.

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HardCoder	2006-07-17 , 19:59
Posts: 39 \| Thanked: 2 times \| Joined on Dec 2005	#3

I had just the same problem i couple of days ago...
I just reflashed the latest firmware to solve the problem. Thats the price to pay sometimes when living on the bleeding edge.

Attached Files

hc_ps-ef.txt (3.8 KB, 204 views)

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	Kralisec	2006-07-18 , 19:48
	Posts: 25 \| Thanked: 0 times \| Joined on Mar 2006 @ France	#4

Originally Posted by HardCoder

I had just the same problem i couple of days ago...
I just reflashed the latest firmware to solve the problem. Thats the price to pay sometimes when living on the bleeding edge.

Yea ... I know ... but I expect to be more able to trace into the problem

Thank you for your list, but that didn't help me,

But I have very very big problem with reflash I didn't expect,
solution was:
export USB_DEVFS_PATH=/dev/bus/usb

I see solution http://l3x.net/imwiki/Wiki.jsp?page=Main

I will a make a post with better explanation.

Good day,
Laurent.

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hallgreng	2006-07-18 , 20:51
Posts: 63 \| Thanked: 21 times \| Joined on Jan 2006	#5

I had this problem yesterday.
I believe it is the maemo-launcher update that causes the problem, mainly because it cannot upgrade properly (as the table reboots when it senses maemo-launcher not running).

flash your 770 like so:
$./flasher-2.0 --set-rd-flags=no-lifeguard-reset

That will keep the 770 from rebooting when something critical has crashed or has been shut down for an upgrade.
You can then use --clear-rd-flags=no-lifeguard-reset to put it back to normal, but I havent at this time.

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	Kralisec	2006-07-18 , 21:32
	Posts: 25 \| Thanked: 0 times \| Joined on Mar 2006 @ France	#6

Now I have more information and I can reproduce my crash/reboot

- I flash with 30 June
- add repository maemo-hackers.org/apt mistral main (to install xterm)
- install xterm
- activate R&D mode (to modify /usr/bin/gainroot)
- disable R&D mode
- add some repository
- apt-get update
- apt-get upgrade
upgrade propose 14 update: I said Yes, system crash with libtelepathy install.

this my repository list I copy from some post: (I don't remeber where)

TAKE CARE OR YOU WILL CRASH YOUR SYSTEM, YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED !!!

deb http://repository.maemo.org/contrib/ mistral free non-free
deb http://repository.maemo.org/ mistral free non-free
deb http://only.mawhrin.net/fbreader/maemo/ mistral user
deb http://www.kernelconcepts.de/~fuchs/nokia770/ex_2006/ ./
deb http://www.mulliner.org/nokia770/repository/ maemo2 free
deb http://maemo.org.br/platform/apt/ python python
deb http://zeus.rm-fr.net/~skyhusker/maemo/ mistral user
deb http://www.oakcourt.dyndns.org/maemo/ ./

Thank you for your tips hallgreng,
I will make a new try with it and see if I can have libtelepathy version

asap,
Laurent.

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hallgreng	2006-07-18 , 21:40
Posts: 63 \| Thanked: 21 times \| Joined on Jan 2006	#7

Please post me the output of
$dpkg -l | grep telepathy

my output from a working tablet is as follows:

Code:

# dpkg -l | grep telepathy
ii  libtelepathy                                   0.0.14-0osso1maemo1          Telepathy client library
ii  telepathy-feed                                 0.10                         Telepathy presence feed for Galago
ii  telepathy-gabble                               0.1.41-0osso1                Telepathy Gabble
ii  telepathy-voip-engine                          0.1.12-0osso1                Telepathy voice over IP engine

If you have an earlier version, then it should be upgradable (albeit with a little hassle and that flasher flag).

I am beginning to wonder if I should apt-get from the command line at all any more. I am a hardcore Debian user, so I prefer to use apt command-line tools to do updates, but I have run into problems with maemo-launcher before, apparently libtelepathy (that was in the list of upgraded packages prior to my problems yesterday), and I needed to enable development flags in the firmware to fix them.
I am not against doing heavy lifting, but the 770 is one of those devices that I like to "just work" and not have to fool around with it to do something.

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	Kralisec	2006-07-18 , 23:18
	Posts: 25 \| Thanked: 0 times \| Joined on Mar 2006 @ France	#8

This is my libtelepathy version before I try to upgrade:

Code:

home/user # dpkg -l | grep telepathy
ii  libtelepathy                              0.0.14-0osso1        Telepathy client library
ii  telepathy-feed                         0.10                         Telepathy presence feed for Galago
ii  telepathy-gabble                     0.1.41-0osso1        Telepathy Gabble
ii  telepathy-voip-engine             0.1.12-0osso1        Telepathy voice over IP engine

apt-get update & apt-get upgrade before I add my previous repository list

Code:

 # apt-get update
Get:1 http://maemo-hackers.org mistral Release.gpg [189B]
Get:2 http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com mistral Release.gpg [189B]
Ign http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com mistral Release.gpg
Hit http://maemo-hackers.org mistral Release
Ign http://maemo-hackers.org mistral Release
Hit http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com mistral Release
Hit http://maemo-hackers.org mistral/main Packages
Hit http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com mistral Release
Hit http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com mistral/user Packages
Hit http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com mistral/user Packages
Fetched 190B in 7s (26B/s)
Reading package lists... Done
W: GPG error: http://maemo-hackers.org mistral Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3A312B21B9E81572
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
/ #


/ # apt-get upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
  libosso-gnomevfs2-0 libosso-gnomevfs2-common
0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
/ #

apt-get update & apt-get upgrade after I add my previous repository list

Code:

/home/user # apt-get update
Get:1 http://maemo-hackers.org mistral Release.gpg [189B]
Ign http://only.mawhrin.net mistral Release.gpg
Ign http://repository.maemo.org mistral Release.gpg
Ign http://www.kernelconcepts.de ./ Release.gpg
Ign http://repository.maemo.org mistral Release.gpg
Hit http://maemo-hackers.org mistral Release
Ign http://maemo.org.br python Release.gpg
Ign http://maemo-hackers.org mistral Release
Ign http://www.mulliner.org maemo2 Release.gpg
Ign http://zeus.rm-fr.net mistral Release.gpg
Get:2 http://www.oakcourt.dyndns.org ./ Release.gpg [189B]
Get:3 http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com mistral Release.gpg [189B]
Ign http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com mistral Release.gpg
Get:4 http://repository.maemo.org mistral Release [228B]
Hit http://maemo-hackers.org mistral/main Packages
Ign http://zeus.rm-fr.net mistral Release
Get:5 http://www.oakcourt.dyndns.org ./ Release [730B]
Hit http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com mistral Release
Ign http://www.oakcourt.dyndns.org ./ Release
Ign http://www.kernelconcepts.de ./ Release
Get:6 http://only.mawhrin.net mistral Release [397B]
Get:7 http://repository.maemo.org mistral Release [248B]
Get:8 http://www.mulliner.org maemo2 Release [97B]
Ign http://maemo.org.br python Release
Get:9 http://zeus.rm-fr.net mistral/user Packages [611B]
Hit http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com mistral Release
Get:10 http://www.oakcourt.dyndns.org ./ Packages [2079B]
Get:11 http://only.mawhrin.net mistral/user Packages [991B]
Get:12 http://repository.maemo.org mistral/free Packages [6780B]
Get:13 http://repository.maemo.org mistral/non-free Packages [20B]
Hit http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com mistral/user Packages
Get:14 http://www.kernelconcepts.de ./ Packages [5178B]
Get:15 http://repository.maemo.org mistral/free Packages [84.0kB]
Hit http://catalogue.tableteer.nokia.com mistral/user Packages
Get:16 http://maemo.org.br python/python Packages [4355B]
Get:17 http://www.mulliner.org maemo2/free Packages [1309B]
Get:18 http://repository.maemo.org mistral/non-free Packages [10.4kB]
Fetched 118kB in 37s (3167B/s)
Reading package lists... Done
W: GPG error: http://maemo-hackers.org mistral Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 3A312B21B9E81572
W: GPG error: http://www.oakcourt.dyndns.org ./ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 86E33E67AD9AE76A
W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
/home/user #


home/user # apt-get upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
  libosso-gnomevfs2-0 libosso-gnomevfs2-common
The following packages will be upgraded:
  certs clinkc0 gcc-3.4-base gst-plugins-farsight lessertunjo0 libcst libgalago1
  libgcc1 libjinglebase0 libjinglep2p0 libstdc++6 libtelepathy maemo-launcher
  osso-sounds-ui
14 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
Need to get 2345kB of archives.
After unpacking 1138kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]? y
WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
  libgcc1 gcc-3.4-base libstdc++6 libcst certs clinkc0 libjinglebase0 libjinglep2p0
  gst-plugins-farsight lessertunjo0 libgalago1 libtelepathy maemo-launcher
  osso-sounds-ui
Install these packages without verification [y/N]?

This is update downloaded:
Get:12 http://repository.maemo.org mistral/free libtelepathy 0.0.14-0osso1maemo1 [20.8kB]

and still crash

But reboot looks stable

and telepathy is updated to:

Code:

iiU  libtelepathy                    0.0.14-0osso1maemo1 Telepathy client library
ii  telepathy-feed                 0.10                                  Telepathy presence feed for Galago
ii  telepathy-gabble             0.1.41-0osso1                Telepathy Gabble
ii  telepathy-voip-engine     0.1.12-0osso1                Telepathy voice over IP engine

Final:

Code:

/ # apt-get upgrade
E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
/ # apt-get --configure -a
E: Command line option --configure is not understood
/ # dpkg -l | grep telepathy >> /media/mmc1/res1
/ # dpkg -l | grep telepathy
iU  libtelepathy                                   0.0.14-0osso1maemo1          Telepathy client library
ii  telepathy-feed                                 0.10                         Telepathy presence feed for Galago
ii  telepathy-gabble                               0.1.41-0osso1                Telepathy Gabble
ii  telepathy-voip-engine                          0.1.12-0osso1                Telepathy voice over IP engine
/ # dpkg --configure -a
Setting up libcst (1.6.34maemo1) ...

Setting up libjinglebase0 (0.3.0-0osso1.2maemo1) ...

Setting up libjinglep2p0 (0.3.0-0osso1.2maemo1) ...

Setting up libgalago1 (0.5.0-0osso3maemo1) ...

Setting up libtelepathy (0.0.14-0osso1maemo1) ...

Setting up clinkc0 (1.0-27.1) ...

Setting up lessertunjo0 (0.1.2-3maemo1) ...

Setting up certs (1.5.4maemo1) ...
gconftool-2: I've been haxored to use xml::/etc/gconf/gconf.xml.defaults as the config source.
Attached schema `/schemas/apps/osso/certman/filename' to key `/apps/osso/certman/filename'
Installed schema `/schemas/apps/osso/certman/filename' for locale `C'

Setting up gst-plugins-farsight (0.10.1-0osso2maemo1) ...
/ # apt-get upgrade
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree... Done
The following packages have been kept back:
  libosso-gnomevfs2-0 libosso-gnomevfs2-common
The following packages will be upgraded:
  maemo-launcher osso-sounds-ui
2 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 2 not upgraded.
1 not fully installed or removed.
Need to get 0B/1330kB of archives.
After unpacking 868kB of additional disk space will be used.
Do you want to continue [Y/n]?
WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!
  maemo-launcher osso-sounds-ui
Install these packages without verification [y/N]? y

/bin/sh: /usr/sbin/dpkg-preconfigure: not found
(Reading database ... 10506 files and directories currently installed.)
Preparing to replace maemo-launcher 0.17-1.1 (using .../maemo-launcher_0.17-1.1sdk1_armel.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement maemo-launcher ...
Preparing to replace osso-sounds-ui 1.2-4 (using .../osso-sounds-ui_1.2-4sdk1_all.deb) ...
Unpacking replacement osso-sounds-ui ...
Setting up maemo-launcher (0.17-1.1sdk1) ...

Configuration file `/etc/init.d/maemo-launcher'
 ==> File on system created by you or by a script.
 ==> File also in package provided by package maintainer.
   What would you like to do about it ?  Your options are:
    Y or I  : install the package maintainer's version
    N or O  : keep your currently-installed version
      D     : show the differences between the versions
      Z     : background this process to examine the situation
 The default action is to keep your current version.
*** maemo-launcher (Y/I/N/O/D/Z) [default=N] ? Y
Installing new version of config file /etc/init.d/maemo-launcher ...
Starting Maemo Launcher: maemo-launcher start failed.

Setting up osso-sounds-ui (1.2-4sdk1) ...
/ #

Now system looks good now

but I can't go out from R&D --set-rd-flags=no-lifeguard-reset mode
cause reboot loop arrive

hallgreng: did you test to go out from R&D to see what appends ?
Cause it's not just an install point problem, it's stability system problem now I guess ...

time for a bug report ?

Good day,
Laurent.

Last edited by Kralisec; 2006-07-18 at 23:20. Reason: cosmetic change

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hallgreng	2006-07-19 , 00:03
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Looks like your situation was the same as mine, I had apt asking about maemo-launcher during upgrade, though I opted to keep the original config file.

I did not disable R&D mode nor have i cleared the no-lifeguard-reset flag.
I may do that tomorrow if necessary to test.

I looked through dmesg and around the end of bootup and this is all that looks interesting:

Code:

~ $ dmesg | grep -A 11 36.660
[   36.660705] aic23 powering up
[   36.664642] aic23_init_power() done
[   43.419555] aic23 powering down
[   50.039581] aic23 powering up
[   50.043670] aic23_init_power() done
[   50.045440] omapdsp: mmap info: vmadr = 40016000, padr = 12a10000, len = 2000
[   52.419555] aic23 powering down
[   67.910156] aic23 powering up
[   67.914123] aic23_init_power() done
[   68.450836] omap-hw-nand: DMA timeout after 1148 ms, max. seen latency 1148 ms
[   70.974273] aic23 powering down
[  326.545074] Loading 3825.arm firmware

Namely the "aic23 powering up and down (I dont know what this is or if it is normal behavior)
and the DMA timeout.
Does anyone have any knowledge of these two things? Due to the nature of the device, logs are sparce. dmesg is the best I can think of to gather information in this case...

Last edited by hallgreng; 2006-07-19 at 00:07.

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spycedtx	2006-07-19 , 01:54
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I did the exact same steps.. got stuck in the reboot loop once I'd installed (and forced the rest of the install to finish). Popped the battery, rd mode to no lifeguard, and the reboot cycle goes away.. and returns again if I take out of R&D/no lifeguard.

I don't know if it's a symptom of R&D mode ( my understanding is that it doesn't cause any performace differences), or maybe I'm just imagining things.. but the overall system suddenly feels speedier since doing this minor upgrade.

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