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Nvidia Introduced new Tegra series mid's at the MWC.

There will be two kinds of specification models the Tegra600 and Tegra650.

They have stated the price will be $99.

This devise is so powerful that it can output 720p and 1080p video right out of the device without any separate cradle and has 8 hours of video playback.

Also supports Google's Android.

I am very excited and still skeptic how this all comes together with the hardware?

Tegra 600

* Processor and Memory Subsystem
o ARM11 MPCore @ 650 MHz
o 32-bit LP-DDR
o NAND Flash support
* HD AVP (High Definition Audio Video Processor)
o 720p H.264 and VC-1 AP decode
o 720p H.264 encode
o Supports multi-standard audio formats, including AAC, AMR, WMA, and MP3
o JPEG encode and decode acceleration
* ULP GeForce
o OpenGL ES 2.0
o Programmable pixel shader
o Programmable vertex and lighting
o Advanced 3D/2D graphics
* Imaging
o Up to 12 megapixel camera sensor support
o Integrated ISP
o Advanced imaging features
* Display Subsystem
o True dual-display support
o Maximum display resolutions supported:
+ 720p (1280x720) HDMI 1.3
+ WXGA (1280x800) LCD
+ SXGA (1280x1024) CRT
+ NTSC/PAL TV output

Tegra 650

* Processor and Memory Subsystem
o ARM11 MP Core @ 750 MHz
o 32-bit LP-DDR
o NAND Flash support
* HD AVP (High Definition Audio Video Processor)
o 1080p H.264 and VC-1 AP Decode
o 720p H.264 encode
o Supports multi-standard audio formats, including AAC, AMR, WMA, and MP3
o JPEG encode and decode acceleration
* ULP GeForce
o OpenGL ES 2.0
o Programmable pixel shader
o Programmable vertex and lighting
o Advanced 3D/2D graphics
* Imaging
o Up to 12 megapixel camera sensor support
o Integrated ISP
o Advanced imaging features
* Display Subsystem
o True dual-display support
o Maximum display resolutions supported:
+ 1080p (1920x1080) HDMI 1.3
+ WSXGA+ (1680x1050) LCD
+ SXGA (1280x1024) CRT
+ NTSC/PAL TV output


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Originally Posted by aikon800 View Post
They have stated the price will be $99.
When it ships sometime in 2010 after Cortex CPUs have been out for at least a year. . . .

Originally Posted by aikon800 View Post
This devise is so powerful that it can output 720p and 1080p video right out of the device without any separate cradle and has 8 hours of video playback.
Video decoding capability doesn't really tell you much about "power". The OMAP3 can decode 720p with only NEON optimizations on its ARM core, but all of the Tegra's "power" comes from dedicated decoding hardware. So, no, it's really not all that impressive.
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Originally Posted by GeneralAntilles View Post
Video decoding capability doesn't really tell you much about "power". The OMAP3 can decode 720p with only NEON optimizations on its ARM core, but all of the Tegra's "power" comes from dedicated decoding hardware. So, no, it's really not all that impressive.
Exactly. As ARM11 based devices go Tegra should be pretty much king of hill when it comes out. It will also be one of the last ARM11 chips to ever be released. But next to an OMAP3 it's a little anaemic. Tegra will make some nice MIDs (Archos would do well to pay attention if they hadn't already switched to OMAP3).

Just today engadget made the same mistake when they announced details for TI's upcoming OMAP4 (here). At the end of the article they say "it'll have to be mighty impressive to outgun NVIDIA's Tegra". A9 based OMAP4 (cross fingers for N910) ought to be performance competitive against Intel's Atom. A several year old ARM11 chip doesn't even play in the same league.
 

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they should have built tegra for the cortex A8
 
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It depends on how well the software stack utilizes the available hardware. If they do a majority of the h.264 decoding and other traditionally cpu intensive tasks on the gpu a 650Mhz arm11 is plenty.

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Originally Posted by Frank Banul View Post
It depends on how well the software stack utilizes the available hardware. If they do a majority of the h.264 decoding and other traditionally cpu intensive tasks on the gpu a 650Mhz arm11 is plenty.
Plenty for what? A good GPU is great and all, but it doesn't help core stuff like web browsing.
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Think out of the box. Nvidia is the company that provides a programming interface to their GPU. What bogs down web browsing? Flash? What if Nvidia implements portions of flash on their GPU? Seems feasible.
 
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Plenty for what? A good GPU is great and all, but it doesn't help core stuff like web browsing.
My N800 already does a decent job browsing. However, it would be nice to view full-resolution video without having to re-convert and still have some CPU cycles left to respond to the controls in a timely manner. Honestly, I just want an N810 with solid video playback. These $700 battery-busting ATOM mids seem to be missing the point of these things.

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Originally Posted by Frank Banul View Post
Think out of the box. Nvidia is the company that provides a programming interface to their GPU. What bogs down web browsing? Flash? What if Nvidia implements portions of flash on their GPU? Seems feasible.
iirc, desktop flash already makes use of available gpu. but that requires drivers...
 
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All of this talk of OMAP4 and not one shred of proof. Nothing shown... I can understand that numbers have been published, some people here "might" have seen something already, but nothing shown... I just don't have the same faith.

But news that "something" is upcoming that might be on par with this kind of stuff announced by other companies instills hope.

But my faith is lacking in Nokia's plans. And for the record, I want to be wrong.
 
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