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#351
You don't have to say anything to me, freemangordon, a respected developer asked you for help, not me.

Since you are on a crusade to save Maemo and this community i thought you'd more then willing to help the man out.
 
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#352
What many people do not understand especially about me is, i do not mess about and go in where it matters most no matter what the feelings are.

I am and have been a troubleshooter many years and i just see all this useless talk for what it is.... useless.....

I am reffering to the trolling and the nay sayers and the name calling when we should be going at it where it will dent the most !.

.And the going round in circles all the time !!!.

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#353
Talk about irony.

I guess actual work is a BIT harder then drooling on your keyboard.

Originally Posted by abill_uk View Post
i just see all this useless talk for what it is.... useless.....
 

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#354
Originally Posted by abill_uk View Post
I will say NOTHING to you untill you delete all your stupid posts .... understand ?????.
It was me who asked the question, anyway, will you do it?
 

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Originally Posted by freemangordon View Post
It was me who asked the question, anyway, will you do it?
What can one person do without the direction and the ammunition do?.

This is and should always be a group decision.
 
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#356
Originally Posted by momcilo View Post
That will hold the water until we encounter problem with closed-source drivers.
Any suggestions on how to do this?
  • Negotiating with Nokia to provide updated closed source binaries
As far as I can tell from their meetings and mailing list posts, this is what the MeeGo N900 team is providing for hardware adaptation. It has also been actively open sourcing what it can get (telephony stack, etc).

From a Radical Realistic Open Source point of view, why bother at all with a platform (Maemo) that is so infested with closed source?

It's going to go downhill like this like it always does in these kind of projects with devices that involve closed platforms:

* Clear trend of end-users moving on to other devices (promiscious and non-brand)
* Big legal challenges to legally redistribute parts of the firmware/full images
* Less and less work force to do anything useful

Do we really need a graph to show the effort/benefit of instead, focusing the community efforts on something like MeeGo, Debian, Ubuntu or god forbid, SHR?
 

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Originally Posted by abill_uk View Post
What can one person do without the direction and the ammunition do?.

This is and should always be a group decision.
http://www.cracked.com/article_19306...story-war.html
 

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#358
Originally Posted by abill_uk View Post
What can one person do without the direction and the ammunition do?.

This is and should always be a group decision.
To make a wiki page? Don't think so. And we will have a point to start from. And eventualy more people will get inspired and will help you.

It i sup to you of course, we are all volunteers here
 

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Originally Posted by tekki View Post
As far as I can tell from their meetings and mailing list posts, this is what the MeeGo N900 team is providing for hardware adaptation. It has also been actively open sourcing what it can get (telephony stack, etc).

From a Radical Realistic Open Source point of view, why bother at all with a platform (Maemo) that is so infested with closed source?

It's going to go downhill like this like it always does in these kind of projects with devices that involve closed platforms:

* Clear trend of end-users moving on to other devices (promiscious and non-brand)
* Big legal challenges to legally redistribute parts of the firmware/full images
* Less and less work force to do anything useful

Do we really need a graph to show the effort/benefit of instead, focusing the community efforts on something like MeeGo, Debian, Ubuntu or god forbid, SHR?
Many of us do not want Maemo to die that is the whole point.
 
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Originally Posted by freemangordon View Post
To make a wiki page? Don't think so. And we will have a point to start from. And eventualy more people will get inspired and will help you.

It i sup to you of course, we are all volunteers here
With my background on this community? no chance mate because i am already hated for some of my words on here .

Will have to be someone else like danramos... go ask him
or momcilo or misterc.

For sure it has to be someone with guts and determination to see it through that will already have respect from this community.

After all the arguments i have had i am the wrong person sorry.

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