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2011-08-09
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Originally Posted by mscion
probably better stability as well. I've heard good and bad things about android but the way Nokia's going we won't be left with much choice by the end of next year. N9 no matter how amazing won't keep up after time.
I think the androids have had better specs for awhile -at lest interms of CPU. The N9 has nicer UI.
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2011-08-09
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Originally Posted by jcar302
rumors says there will be an US N9 but with wp7 probadly that is the white someone has talked about?
Out of curiosity, if there truly isn't a US version of the n9, what are warranty options on an import?
Are we just screwed if it breaks?
Seriously affects if and when i purchase. If it's impossible to warranty, that may be a deal breaker, i certainly wouldn't be an early adopter, that's for sure.
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2011-08-09
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Originally Posted by quipper8
Yea well, I guess the American draconian carrier thing is too surrealistic for me to grasp. But I still don't fully get it. You can purchase unlocked GSM phones, but prefer not to.
It really is not nonsense. In the American model of mobile phone usage, most people do not have more than one device used on the same plan, hell, on the largest US carrier, Verizon, you cannot use two different devices on the same plan without calling to customer service which entails a nice long hold time and then a nice long conversation to explain to the 'service' representative that yes, you actually own your devices and can switch between them. Verizon is also CDMA and does not use sim cards except for a few models.
Given above, in addition to the carrier subsidy model which often includes two year contracts, in addition to the preference of americans for iphones, it does seem the American market is saturated and of no real benefit to Nokia currently.
When verizon switches to LTE(which will operate more like GSM folks are accustomed to) and the carrier subsidy/contract model is defeated in the US, then Nokia may have a chance here.
In my opinion, Nokia is using a a type of cross-plot of carrier power(ie where people are more likely or not to buy or even be able to buy unlocked sim free devices) on one axis and market potential on another axis in deciding where to market and release such a device as the n9.
Not really true, Jobs has always dealt with carriers preferentially, first giving ATT exclusivity not selling any unlocked devices and then also creating a cdma version which is virtually always locked by the cellular technology it uses(will only work on verizon)
Anyway, I too wish that it would be easier for me to get an n9 here in the States, but I understand that it makes total business sense for Nokia to not worry setting up a channel here for the few sales they will receive.
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2011-08-09
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Originally Posted by xalted13
again this depends on region....
probably better stability as well. I've heard good and bad things about android but the way Nokia's going we won't be left with much choice by the end of next year. N9 no matter how amazing won't keep up after time.
N9 may very well have a chance in euurope/asia but I guess this is upto the consumer if they blindly beleive in MrFlop FUD or if they use theyr ownh brain and buys devices after how good it is. people over and over forgets that Meego .is using Qt+Webkiit and so on and this IS still supported both on symbian and. Meego. It doesnt help how much MrFlop and his US fanboys says. Its a fact.
As I said before it looks more and more MrFlop just talks to US people (and also media) and they forgot rest of the world...
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2011-08-09
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing
I was just thinking the same issue... US is quite big market, but... US is allready polluted with iThings and the growing market is elsewhere...
As I said before it looks more and more MrFlop just talks to US people (and also media) and they forgot rest of the world...
But again, WP for US = ok, S40 for emerging economies = ok, N9/linux/meego for future smartphones and after year or three, fully replacing symbian... = ok ? <- Nokia just don't see that...
edit: I forgot (y)
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2011-08-09
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Originally Posted by daperl
This doesn't surprise me. I'm sure somebody will be happy, though.
A crime has been committed:
Nokia: the N9 isn't coming to America
originating article: http://www.theinquirer.net/inquirer/...t-n9-uk-launch
Originally Posted by catbus
This wouldn't surprise me either.
wait a couple more weeks and N9 is canceled...
Originally Posted by mikecomputing
Tiny screen, flimsy USB port, flimsy keyboard... naw that is ROCK SOLID Nokia engineering there.
reason is simple. The buildquallity of nokia hw is often better than crap androids even n900 with some broken usb ports sometimes better. for example give me one android with good camera as N8 and N9 (or even n900 sometimes). also N9 has nfc. NFC is a must for me.
Originally Posted by mikecomputing
Surely, we can make room to blame Nokia's board. Surely.
If this rumor are true You americans should nolt blame Nokia. Blame your nice company named Microsoft and also the operators.
Now I really hate Microsoft even more and hope WP7 will fail as hell in european :-(
Originally Posted by quipper8
Report: Verizon, AT&T LTE phones likely incompatible
When verizon switches to LTE(which will operate more like GSM folks are accustomed to) and the carrier subsidy/contract model is defeated in the US, then Nokia may have a chance here.
While the two carriers will be using the same underlying technology, called Long-Term Evolution, both will be using different frequencies of spectrum, the radio airwaves necessary for transmitting cellular signals. Verizon Wireless representative Brenda Raney confirmed to PC Mag that its phones will run on different frequencies than what AT&T plans to use when it launches LTE in five cities as planned this summer.Source: http://news.cnet.com/8301-1035_3-200...-incompatible/
Nokia are idiotic, just the same, not to even try to create a market for themselves despite the carrier locking. Samsung, for instance, came in late to the game and is doing an excellent job of covering the entire spectrum. Nokia is clearly a failure and an uncompetitive weakling.
Originally Posted by jcar302
If that's actually a concern and you live in the United States of America, I'm not sure why you're considering a Nokia branded product in the first place.
Out of curiosity, if there truly isn't a US version of the n9, what are warranty options on an import?
Are we just screwed if it breaks?
Seriously affects if and when i purchase. If it's impossible to warranty, that may be a deal breaker, i certainly wouldn't be an early adopter, that's for sure.
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2011-08-09
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Originally Posted by mikecomputing
Proof. I want it. Speculation, I have no need for it. Fanaticism, I have no time for it.
No theyar are not cause Microsoft controls Nokia in the US...
So prove it with facts.
And I begin to realise this is what Elop is talking about when he talking about WP7. He is talkinhg about US and seems forget the rest of the world. Probadly cause its US most stockholders are in?
See that? That's called an ecosystem by Elop and others. And guess what? So far, it's not sold well. But it was sold awfully well to the Nokia board of members.
Means Symbian/Meego will still be alive in european/asia. Cause they know it will take some time before they actually have brainwatched US consumers. And when that is done european is next to try.
And for a brainwashed set of folks, even the USA'Mericans aren't buying WP7 in mass numbers. So yeah... who's brainwashed? The few folks that bought WP7 in the US, or the entire (and mostly European) Nokia board of directors... seriously. They're about the only people that bought WP7 hook, line and sinker.
Congrats. Nokia's run by people more stupid than Americans.
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Originally Posted by ericsson
Correction: Symbian/Ovi got no coverage in the US. No marketing. No press. Nothing. If you count Engadget or Gizmodo, then understand that it was up to Nokia to use them as advertising vessels (under the guise of tech blogs nonetheless).
The badmouth Symbian/Ovi has got in the US, it is after all understandable they just want to quit. Harmattan is just an unfortunate casualty.
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2011-08-09
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Originally Posted by gerbick
Biggest shareholders were worried about US-market... And why? Bcause their are from US...
Congrats. Nokia's run by people more stupid than Americans.
Well... I just hope that N9 will come available "soon" and would broke markets... And after that, US-market get N9-clone, WP inside...
Have to edit: Lol, "...more stupid than Americans"... d) Canada...
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With all the badmouth Symbian/Ovi has got in the US, it is after all understandable they just want to quit. Harmattan is just an unfortunate casualty.
It is just phones we are talking about here, no real damage done, life goes on. Looking forward to my N9 while enjoying my E6 and my Wave