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Originally Posted by jalyst
Why should there be Meltemi announcements? It's way too early for products.
By the way, I haven't been following MWC closely (too busy).
Can anyone advise whether there was more detail about Meltemi?
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2012-02-27
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Originally Posted by pycage
Was hoping there might at least be a bit more detail.
Why should there be Meltemi announcements? It's way too early for products.
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Originally Posted by jalyst
The N900 was a real Linux phone. In fact I used that phone for two whole years, I have never used a phone that long. The N9 is sexy and all, but it has kind of lost it's charm on me. There's only so much you can do with it, at least in a practical sense. So all in all it is no better than the N8, and the N8 got more apps and much better camera, and better UI, FM Transmitter, HDMI, USB2go and so on. The N900 was no flagship, it was The Linux phone. Good specs for it's time, but no flagship at all. The 808 got it all. A monster camera, and everything else of the goodies the N8 got.
So you call the N900 a real Linux phone.
Are you asserting it was a flagship phone?
Well, you wouldn't be offering any special insights to anyone there.
I kind of like Android also, but I don't like the way all the "flagships" are headed. They are jerking themselves to death with quad cores running 2+ Ghz on 5+ inches displays, for what? Making a note on Facebook or Twitter about the newest shiny and using half of the battery capacity while doing it? It is madness.
The N900 was the first and only real Linux smartphone (so far). The 808 looks to be the last real smartphone for a long time. Nokia is soon all WP. Maybe WP will evolve into a real smartphone OS, maybe not. Maybe it will only die a slow death.
I only got my gut feeling, and it tells me that something cool is brewing over at Samsung/Intel camp
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2012-02-27
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Hey you missed my updated post, your quote's not showing it (i always fiddle with my posts, OCD).
Can you elaborate on what you mean by that?
Agreed there.
Actually FMTX is still a possibility for N9, far from conclusive though.
No HDMI sadly, but I've found a possibly very handy add-on which I'll post about soon.
USB host-mode seems to have stalled, the devs still won't say anything about progress.
Def. more open than the N9 in the UI layer (at least for now), not notably more anywhere else.
Open-Mode on N9 (ie. no AEGIS) is achievable by anyone with a little bit of know-how now.
There seems to be little-to-no issues associated w/using it last I checked.
But admittedly my memory is hazy, as I haven't reviewed it all for a while.
Hopefully it'll eventually become more accessible to those who are less technical.
I have a similar suspicion, fingers-crossed.
Last edited by jalyst; 2012-02-27 at 21:44.
Originally Posted by specc
Were you banned from here once or just decided to use another u/n?
The N900 was a real Linux phone. In fact I used that phone for two whole years, I have never used a phone that long.
There's only so much you can do with it, at least in a practical sense.
and the N8/808 got more apps and much better camera
FM Transmitter, HDMI, USB2go...
No HDMI sadly, but I've found a possibly very handy add-on which I'll post about soon.
USB host-mode seems to have stalled, the devs still won't say anything about progress.
The N900 was no flagship, it was The Linux phone. Good specs for it's time, but no flagship at all.
Open-Mode on N9 (ie. no AEGIS) is achievable by anyone with a little bit of know-how now.
There seems to be little-to-no issues associated w/using it last I checked.
But admittedly my memory is hazy, as I haven't reviewed it all for a while.
Hopefully it'll eventually become more accessible to those who are less technical.
I only got my gut feeling, and it tells me that something cool is brewing over at Samsung/Intel camp
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2012-02-27
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Originally Posted by gerbick
Just a small correction - that ain't no Unity3d - it just uses its structure to simulate a good part of it under (lesser) XNA.
Ahem. Yes. It does exist. Can you say the same for Harmattan?
Here's a hint. No.
On the other hand - THIS is a good sign of things to come. Also, the game Samurai II: Vengeance is developed using Unity3d and readily available for the N9. Don't have an N9 with me to check the underlying structure, but I wouldn't be surprised if it uses some night build of Unity for the N9.
So, unlike the WP which in its current form will never get Unity, Harmattan just - might!
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2012-02-28
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Originally Posted by zwer
Crap not available for Australia, so annoying when Nokia does that.
Also, the game Samurai II: Vengeance is developed using Unity3d and readily available for the N9.
I don't want to be forced to pirate it, I'm happy to pay if it looks good.
So, unlike the WP which in its current form will never get Unity, Harmattan just - might!
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Re Samurai II: Vengeance, it appears that it got pulled from the Ovi store atm., so piracy seems the only option... I played it a month ago and it worked quite well, with just an odd bug here and there - I guess they don't deem it ready yet...
As for Unity on Apollo, if it's true that it will support native C/C++ development, then it will probably be ported one way or the other, but whether it will be usable in RL it might depend on other restrictions that Microsoft might impose (namely Marketplace rules and so on). If it still remains in the interpreted .NET/XNA world, the situation would be pretty much the same as it is for WP7.
As for Unity on Apollo, if it's true that it will support native C/C++ development, then it will probably be ported one way or the other, but whether it will be usable in RL it might depend on other restrictions that Microsoft might impose (namely Marketplace rules and so on). If it still remains in the interpreted .NET/XNA world, the situation would be pretty much the same as it is for WP7.
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2012-02-28
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I recall it coming out very early, it was among the 1st games IIRC.
Recall people demoing it etc, I hope those unity3d games haven't been pulled for the N9.
Yeah native c/c++ is supposedly a feature for WP8x...
Recall people demoing it etc, I hope those unity3d games haven't been pulled for the N9.
Yeah native c/c++ is supposedly a feature for WP8x...
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not quite N9, definitely (thanksfully >¦-) not wp
but it may well be the next (and last?) NOKIA flagship...
808 PureView
just noticed on gsmarena's news page that the camera interface is not the (current) one from NOKIA Belle.
maybe there is still some juice left in Symbian...
(would be silly to develop a new version for only one device, no?)
btw. from NYTimes the latest nbrs about market shares...
doesn't look like wp is getting anywhere, 'xcept to what it is... /dev/null 
EDIT: btw, Red / Green button(s) again...
back to the future ?!? ¦-)))))))))))))))))
Last edited by misterc; 2012-02-28 at 00:58. Reason: back to the future?
but it may well be the next (and last?) NOKIA flagship...
808 PureView
just noticed on gsmarena's news page that the camera interface is not the (current) one from NOKIA Belle.
maybe there is still some juice left in Symbian...
(would be silly to develop a new version for only one device, no?)
btw. from NYTimes the latest nbrs about market shares...
In December, Microsoft’s Windows phones, which are made by Nokia, Samsung and HTC, had only 1.7 percent of the global operating system market.
Phones running Android, Google’s operating system, had 51 percent of the market, followed by Apple, with 24 percent, Nokia’s Symbian with 12 percent, and Research In Motion’s BlackBerry, with 9 percent, according to Strategy Analytics.
EDIT: btw, Red / Green button(s) again...
back to the future ?!? ¦-)))))))))))))))))
Last edited by misterc; 2012-02-28 at 00:58. Reason: back to the future?
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