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08-06-2012 , 05:45 AM
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Well, Nokia has in a joint antic with Microsoft shifted at least 2000 of Nokias patents to the patent troll MOSAID. I don't know if this is their most or least valuable 1/15 of their patent portfolio, but I don't think the patent portfolio of 2013 will be directly comparable with the patent portfolio of 2011. Nokia's CFO also stated that they're ready to sell parts of their portfolio if the price is right. Which basically means they're looking to get rid of them.

It looks to me like Nokia is planning on leaving innovation to their partners, which is compatible with everything they've said, really.
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Anyone have any great stock value application for N9. STocks world wide is a must. anyone working on one?
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08-06-2012 , 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by volt View Post
It looks to me like Nokia is planning on leaving innovation to their partners, which is compatible with everything they've said, really.
Compatible with everything they have done during the past 18 months as well. Only part left to innovate is the camera development and squeezing few more megapixels in. Maybe the location & mapping stuff also. The again, Microsoft OEMs don't really need to innovate anyway. Thats up to Microsoft. OEMs need to come up with marketing and/or pricing that gives reason to buy hardware from manufacturer X rather than Y. And well, Windows Phone manufacturers also have the extra effort of praying for the miracle of consumers someday wanting to buy WP phones from anyone to begin with. Producing that miracle is up to MIcrosoft as well.
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Originally Posted by specc View Post
Danramos, I really don't care what you think. For me, if the Nokia WP8 is cool, I will get it (one of them), if not I'll pass. First, a Nexus 7 is on the list though.

Daperl: What exactly IS your problem? What have I ever done to you?
I'm not pointing out what I think nor are we talking about your purchases--just commenting on your previous statements. I'd like to know what you think is a reasonable threshold before you can be clearly dismissed as wrong. You and Lumiaman are both known for moving the goal-post every time a significant measure of time has gone by without success. So please, tell us what you think would be a reasonable time for the Windows Phone strategy to finally win for Nokia--mind you, I'm pretty sure it has to succeed before the company goes under.

Also... if I may guess Daperl's problem: You've been heavily antagonizing. Personally, I'm not sure banning is necessarily the right answer but you certainly aren't gaining any favor among this crowd by doing so.

Originally Posted by Rauha View Post
Compatible with everything they have done during the past 18 months as well. Only part left to innovate is the camera development and squeezing few more megapixels in. Maybe the location & mapping stuff also. The again, Microsoft OEMs don't really need to innovate anyway. Thats up to Microsoft. OEMs need to come up with marketing and/or pricing that gives reason to buy hardware from manufacturer X rather than Y. And well, Windows Phone manufacturers also have the extra effort of praying for the miracle of consumers someday wanting to buy WP phones from anyone to begin with. Producing that miracle is up to MIcrosoft as well.
Except for Nokia, don't all the other Windows Phone OEM's have other alternative operating systems that are all selling far better? I'm pretty sure they're not praying for anything related to Windows Phone--I'm sure the very teeny, tiny TEAMS within those OEM's that are working exclusively on Windows Phone probably are, though.
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08-06-2012 , 01:44 PM
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Nokia's last remaining European blue collar workers in Salo, Finland have started lighting candles in memoriam of Nokia.

 
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Originally Posted by Rauha View Post
Nokia's last remaining European blue collar workers in Salo, Finland have started lighting candles in memoriam of Nokia.

Serioulsy :O Finland has given up for Nokia for long. But people are fighters. I am sure there will come up some new cool companys from there. And I am also sure alot of finland will buy theyr new stuff. Hopefully rest of northeuropeans doing the same instead of feed MicroNokia with the money because MicroNokia deserves to die.

However its a shame American buying out all those Finish patents when EU just sitting there doing NOTHING

I guess thats why stockholders doing NOTHING too AFAIK because most big stockholders are Americans too...
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08-06-2012 , 02:10 PM
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Recently I've noticed a lot of new users with no posts other than the 1 or two they post here. Welcome stealthology and jsaloo. Long time lurkers I guess? hope it's not something more sinister

That widget(is it?) looks nice, though a little uninformative on what the bars actually mean. Is chaikin power tools data sourced from somewhere else or do they provide their own with additional information they publish somewhere?
I haven't gotten my invite to the Super Sinister League of Super Evil yet, but I'm working on it

Yeah, there's a widget but I don't really use it much. Their iPhone one is the only version that gets in depth - you can open the sliders and get all sorts of other info. They advertise that they back test this stuff but I don't know exactly where they get their data from - maybe we can shoot them an email or something to find out. I see these guys on CNBC somewhat often.
 
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08-06-2012 , 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by danramos View Post
So please, tell us what you think would be a reasonable time for the Windows Phone strategy to finally win for Nokia--mind you, I'm pretty sure it has to succeed before the company goes under.
S40 is doing well, it is increasing it's global market share and has 25% now. Asha will be enough for some time. WP has increased 270% YoY thanks to Nokia. WP8 will increase to 8-9% in a year.

You got the basics wrong and think in black/white. Add some color, some shades and things will look less blocky.
 
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08-06-2012 , 04:49 PM
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Strange news from Bloomberg today. "Nokia Fight for AT&T Shelf Space Shows Lumia's Hurdles". I thought AT&T was the big partner in Lumia's, the one that was so excited about the "3rd ecosystem".

If Nokia is struggling for shelf space at AT&T stores, that is a corporate decision from AT&T not to give it to them. Which leaves Nokia in a extremely problematic situation, and shows that AT&T has given up on them in reality, even though AT&T still talks the talk about the Lumia line.

http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...for-next-lumia
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Who is buying phone from the shelves? Its so 200...4!

Must be the regular users...and americans.
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