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#181
thanks. i think that sounds accurate.
 
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Originally Posted by Jaffa View Post
Nokia's corporate announcements have said they're "still committed to releasing a MeeGo device this year".

Some people have read this as "releasing a MeeGo [project built RPM running] device". However, as far as we know, this is actually meant as "releasing a MeeGo [API compatible] device this year", aka Harmattan.

Therefore there are those who think:
  1. Harmattan's been scrapped and there'll be a "pure" MeeGo device.
  2. Harmattan's being released and then they'll release the "MeeGo device"
  3. Harmattan's being released, and that's what they meant.

I think anyone with any sense believes #3, and I believe - though haven't checked - there are concrete statements from Quim et al which confirm this.
I agree with Jaffa on this.
The reason is simple, this is what Quim already said in various forums 100 times already.
 
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Originally Posted by Venemo View Post
The reason is simple, this is what Quim already said in various forums 100 times already.
In this Meego Conference Session summary, he actually says it is MeeGo API-compatible with Meego 1.2

http://sf2011.meego.com/program/sess...eego-community

He also openly asks several questions. The important takeaway for us (maemo.org) is that the relationship between the device and Meego project is not yet clarified.
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#184
I had a question to a video on the old Maemo 6 security platform.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r08dFQQ2uZI
Is there some components that are also used in MeeGo Harmattan?
I think yes because Harmattan is a mix of Maemo and MeeGo and I don't think Nokia would live aside their work they have previoulsy done on Maemo 6. Any ideas?
 
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Originally Posted by baptx View Post
Is there some components that are also used in MeeGo Harmattan?
I think yes because Harmattan is a mix of Maemo and MeeGo and I don't think Nokia would live aside their work they have previoulsy done on Maemo 6. Any ideas?
Yes, the security platform is in MeeGo Harmattan. I'm not qualified to assess if that's a good or a bad thing.
 

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Originally Posted by qgil View Post
This is a simple request to rename this forum but it's worth getting into more details to clarify things.

Harmattan is the name of the software program that comes after Fremantle / Maemo 5. In the Maemo Summit we already announced it as "Maemo 6" in order to bring a clear signal about the major update, change of toolkit, etc.

Now MeeGo comes to the picture. "Maemo 6" will not be used by Nokia as a brand since all the marketing effort around the software platform will be around MeeGo.

To be clear: this is not about "ditching" or "abandoning" any platform. The Harmattan program keeps working with the same plans than last week, no matter the name of the product they will deliver. Maemo 6 and Moblin 2.x merge and have a successor called MeeGo. Current Maemo people will look at it and will say "looks like his mother!". Current Mblin people will look at it and will say "looks like his father!" (or choose your preferred gender) Of course you will see changes compared to Maemo 5, but these changes were coming anyway with Maemo 6.

What does this mean exactly for Harmattan7MeeGo? It means different things for different people:

- For end users nothing really changes, apart from a name most of them were not aware of anyway.

- For application developers not much changes. Harmattan's developer offering is based on Qt 4.6 + Qt Creator, Web Runtime + Aptana. Same for MeeGo and btw same for Symbian. Harmattan *might* have extended APIs unique to Nokia devices (e.g. Ovi APIs), but we'll see and this is part of the MeeGo flexibility anyway. Wait for the SDKs to be released and then we can discuss in more detail. There will be also the APIs available for those willing to use them, provided directly by other open source components in the platform (e.g. GStreamer). Developers will be of course free to use them, at the expense of loosing compatibility with Symbian, and with MeeGo... depends on the component and to be seen as soon as there is a detailed MeeGo architecture public. Then there will be the obvious difference in packaging (deb still for Harmattan, rpm for MeeGo) but this won't be the big issue and anyway compatibility with Symbian implies specific packaging as well.

- For those caring about the platform in depth, Harmattan =! MeeGo. If we would make Harmattan identical to MeeGo then we would need to postpone dates and, really not for a good reason. Not a reason for app developers (the API is there anyway) and not a good reason for end users, who could not care less about packaging and some obscure middleware components. This is the only reason making Ari Jaaksi refer to Harmattan as a "MeeGo instance" instead of just "MeeGo product".

This is why we are dropping the "Maemo 6" *brand* while keeping all the Harmattan development full speed and in the same direction that it was.
Since the MeeGo release which is shipped with the N9 device is actually Maemo 6 and the brand "MeeGo" is officially dead I only wonder why the N9 OS is not renamed back to "Maemo 6" again?
It would also clarify that the N9 is the true N900 sucessor.

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Wish Nokia could rename it back to maemo 6, otherwise lots people thinks N9 is dead.
 

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Wish Nokia could rename it back to maemo 6, otherwise lots people thinks N9 is dead.
That is the strategy of S. Elop... All he wants is doing everything so that the N9 is going to grave and make the Windows crap the winner...
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#189
I really hope Jolla rename its os. Meego is not a strong brand and is marked with nokia failure. Maemo 7 would be cool, but it's nokia. So the now what

Meego was maemo 6 now it's more meego but again that brand is broken.

Jolt. That would be perfect.
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#190
Well, Jolla calls it SailfishOs.
SailfishOS is indeed MeeGo, e.g. it features rpm instead of deb-package management.
 
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