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Originally Posted by gerbick
Well, as I listened to his muttering (in finnish) among the swearwords I heard bits like "where's the f*****g back button", "what the b****y did it do now", "huh!", "what!", "How the h**l did I get here again" and so on...
What the hell did I just watch? I mean, seriously, this person kept doing the same thing over and over.
If that's a representation of who has this device right now, I'm actually saddened a bit. If anything, the need for a video, in whatever native language is needed that describes what gestures do what, it needs to be made now; post haste.
Wow.
I gathered he had used iOS & Android devices before and did not quite get the logic of the device. Also he had not gone through the tutorial that starts when you first boot up the device.
It seems that he did not understand the nature of the swipes at all, not that there are 2 types of swipes, one from edge and one inside the viewport. And he got nervous and swiped too quickly to understand what he was doing
If he'd ever used N9 before I guess he would have known a bit about the logic... Fortunately the tutorial is very good at explaining the basics and you cannot get to the device before you have completed it
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2013-12-11
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Originally Posted by OVK
First time swiping it away accidentally, next time he already swiped it away on purpose.
I did not guide him in any way, just looked that he didn't start to throw the phone around or remove any programs. And it took less than 10 minutes for him to learn the basics of the Harmattan Swipe interphase: opening programs and moving between them.
Don't know if Sailfish would be more confusing to use. I probably have to test it with my son when I finally get one.
just document your observations well might be useful on the day that starts peacefully only to end with Sailfish being attacked by overseas patent watchdogs for using their swipe.
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2013-12-11
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Originally Posted by richardyates
Are you sure that UTC is really your timezone? AFAIK the UK uses Western European Time, but not UTC. UTC has no DST and this may explain why alarms go off an hour too early. It works fine for me in CET.
I have checked the timezones wherever I can find them - they are all correctly set to UTC - which is my correct zone
Hope that helps:-)
Are there any countries that actually have UTC timezone? AFAIK it's an artificial DST-less timezone to coordinate times worldwide. It just happens to match British time half of the year.
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2013-12-11
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Originally Posted by pycage
Wait... what? Of course no country is in UTC or GMT or any timezone for that matter... isn't date/time managed in /usr/share/zoneinfo, and you set the country/city in /etc/timezone? So, each country has their own rules as to when to switch to daylight saving, or not switch at all? This changes almost every year (I can see the timezone updates coming through my Linux distro...). I'm not sure how it is with CET In particular (does the EU agree on this for _all_ their countries?)
Are you sure that UTC is really your timezone? AFAIK the UK uses Western European Time, but not UTC. UTC has no DST and this may explain why alarms go off an hour too early. It works fine for me in CET.
Are there any countries that actually have UTC timezone? AFAIK it's an artificial DST-less timezone to coordinate times worldwide. It just happens to match British time half of the year.
Am I missing something? Date/Time should be set per country/city rather than timezone, unless you want to change the timezone every time daylight saving changes, which is what I do in my old DSLR, or my PS3 ;-)
EDIT: Just checked my N9... it looks like /etc/timezone doesn't exist, but the same principle applies... time/date set by country/city, please somebody correct me if I'm completely wrong here.
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2013-12-11
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Originally Posted by juiceme
Tutorial is pretty good.
If he'd ever used N9 before I guess he would have known a bit about the logic... Fortunately the tutorial is very good at explaining the basics and you cannot get to the device before you have completed it
As someone who skipped N9, I had similar problems than that guy for about first 30 mins. Especially, I kept accidentally doing swipe from below the screen when scrolling vertically, so the notification screen became very familiar sight! Hard to get it into 'muscle memory', even when I knew that I shouldnt do it. Now I'm used to it though.
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2013-12-11
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Originally Posted by pycage
It should be GMT (Greenwich Mean Time) and BST (British Summer Time) (GMT+1) in the summer however GMT and UTC are the same time since we in the UK got to set where the meridian was and UTC picked up the same meridian.
Are you sure that UTC is really your timezone? AFAIK the UK uses Western European Time, but not UTC. UTC has no DST and this may explain why alarms go off an hour too early. It works fine for me in CET.
That doesn't explain the hour difference in the alarm UI though. Maybe it is working in CET whereas the back end is UTC.
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Originally Posted by _Routser
This should already work. If you open the notifications & events view (swipe from the bottom of your phone), open "Show presence details" from the pulley menu. You should have a facebook account listed there. Once it's online, it should start to work, hopefully!
Facebook chat. I use this a lot and it would be nice to see people who are online, and to be reachable via chat. I somehow remembered this was already supported but no messages came through to me.
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Indeed and in teh people app once you are online you can tap on the little globe icon and see all the contacts who are also online and available.
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2013-12-11
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A question about the browser:
With such a beautiful multitasking interface seems only natural that we can make advantage of the swipe multitasking interface to efficiently switch between web pages. (like on the N900)
Does the built in browser allow "open in new window" instead new tab?
That is necessary because on a wel designed touch interface the multitasking interface IS the tab system.
I need multiple pages of daily bookmarks loading in the background (we have 1GB or ram and a dual core)
Of course the option to open tabs may still co-exist.
Thanks and sorry if this is a double posted question.
With such a beautiful multitasking interface seems only natural that we can make advantage of the swipe multitasking interface to efficiently switch between web pages. (like on the N900)
Does the built in browser allow "open in new window" instead new tab?
That is necessary because on a wel designed touch interface the multitasking interface IS the tab system.
I need multiple pages of daily bookmarks loading in the background (we have 1GB or ram and a dual core)
Of course the option to open tabs may still co-exist.
Thanks and sorry if this is a double posted question.
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If that's a representation of who has this device right now, I'm actually saddened a bit. If anything, the need for a video, in whatever native language is needed that describes what gestures do what, it needs to be made now; post haste.
Wow.