LXDE FTW.

10 chars

Both sucks!

Two words: No multitasking.

nonono vim is better than emacs

And there was me thinking that if we could all get behind a pile of smartwatch like systemd, we'd all be able to work together.

You're all totally right. It's been fantastic. Is fantastic. That's why it is and continues to be such a unparalleled success story, right? The level of delusion is still brimming over.

There are a lot of people which love Sailfish and their Jolla. So obviously Jolla has done a lot of things right. Of course there are things which every individual would do different. But if you be honest to yourself, you don't know if that really have brought more success.

And if you think even further, weren't there a lot of brilliant products in the past which weren't successful? And weren't there a lot of products which were not really good and succeeded anyway?

And no there is often no obvious cause for a flop, like bad marketing, bad design or things like that. Often the only explanation was and is, that the market isn't ready for a product like this.

On the other hand there are a lot products which only succeeded because there was a huge company in the background, like the iPhone or Goggle Chrome:

The iPhone succeeded because it delivered something new, a fresh design and there was a well known and popular brand behind. The first iPhone itself was rubbish when it hit the market and there were a lot phones which were MUCH better.

Chrome is still rubbish (yes I know it is fast - but what else). Nobody wanted to have it at the beginning. Chrome only succeeded because Google decided after the very poor start to spread it like a virus. You downloaded a software and installed with it the unwanted package of Chrome and set it as the the main browser. Of course you always had the choice to opt out. But I still would call such a behaviour as a drive-by-infection. Which was in plain terms only possible with A LOT of money.

I am not an advocator of Chrome; but i'd say they were the first ones to push "proper" javascript debugging.

... But you will agree, that can't be the reason, why Chrome is successful. Probably 90% of it's users don't even know what javascript is.

Yup. You don't become successful in this industry by giving control to users or respecting their privacy. You do it by making your stuff pretty, making it easy for people to use your stuff, or getting away with making it hard not to.

The best Sailfish can hope for here is a power user niche, but they haven't been very successful in targeting that. They're split between android fans in denial about what google has become, die-hard open sourcers who are throwing themselves behind ubuntu and blackberry hackers.