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2016-02-04 , 08:31
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Originally Posted by ste-phan View Post
I am certain that, apart from Elop who must have had briefing from MS, only a limited part of the decision making staff that handed over Nokia plate were aware of the potential of promising side projects such as Maemo.
Well yes and no, it was seen as a promising project but you know what the upper corporate echelons are, you need to speak the business language well and you can shine or dull anything with it.
The board had to choose between 2 major options; take Elop or take Vanjoki.
And apparently mr. E was the quicker speaker with a silver tongue


Originally Posted by ste-phan View Post
In 2010-11, the worst nightmare for MS would have been a high end Maemo device that got the critics raving about the mobile devices development status quo finally disrupted, innovative etc..

Why? A considerable crowd that finds itself confronted and accustomed with a Linux prompt on their telephone is not something MS is wishing for.

Linux should be hidden, unknown and embedded or else it could spread further as a desktop OS alternative and eventually become a threat to Windows coming emerging from the immensely popular mobile phones market.

MS and their buddy intel did a great job to prevent this to happen. The rest is side effect. Windows 10 is going to get at you.

It is now much better positioned to take over your device from the desktop side.
It does look to me like people are not taking the W10 pill quite without wincing and choking. There's more resistance towards it than has been with previous Windows releases.
Now the top talk is about the privacy issues and leaking all data to MS cloud-based analysis engines and people start to be aware of it.
Mind you, that has alays been the case really; all releases of Windows since forever have collected too much user information for the company use but now they have clearly overstepped some boundary line.

Last week there was a longish topic on how W10 takes away your freedom and data in thge finnish TV documentary "Kuningaskuluttaja" (which means loosely translated as "consumer the king").
In the episode there was pretty good description in layman's termas of the whole W10 fiasco and what possibly could be done to it.
Linux was shortly mentioned too, as a viable alternative but "still too difficult to take into use by everyman"


Originally Posted by ste-phan View Post
Do we really think that Windows Phone could not license Myriad for providing their Windows Phone OS with an Android compatibility layer?
Or purchase Myriad if they wanted a quick success for their Windows 8.1?
To do that they would need to incorporate a lot of GPL-based stuff in their OS, amounting to poisoning their own system
Easier said than done really!


Originally Posted by ste-phan View Post
See what they did with Pureview (no more development since 2011-12)
What use did they make of the production capabilities at Nokia (only make candybar phones)

For them this Windows Phone thing has just been a side project / placeholder.

In any case you won't be needing and Windows Phone to experience Mobile Microsoft goodness.

Windows 10 phone will have some "new" features such as possibility to connect mouse, keyboard, display (I vaguely recall a certain brand offered this before but nobody cared)

But you won't be missing out on your Windows experience if you are Android fan, you will use a Microsoft app on your Android and put all your data in the MS cloud.

And you will be using Windows 10 on your desktop or touch screen hybrid notebook to take full advantage of the integrated blah blah..

Anyway Windows Phone platform is just a name..
Windows 10 etc will not let go of your mobile experience and is not dead at all.
If WP was just a placeholder then it sure was a bloody expensive bookmark


Originally Posted by ste-phan View Post
Remember they have Skype too.
I vaguely remember that, some sort of primitive video call application?
Stopped using Skype around the time it was sold off to MS. You sure can guess why....
 

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@ste-phan, Linux does not need Microsoft to be its enemy. Linux is its own enemy.
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