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https://mapzen.com/blog/shutdown/
Valhalla's team is joining Mapbox, see announcement at https://github.com/valhalla
 

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Interesting. Good for development and offline use, I guess, but quite impossible for online service use. Mapbox's terms and pricing are very difficult, e.g. "You may only use our Navigation SDK or results from our Directions API in or for real-time turn-by-turn navigation (regardless of mode of transportation) for up to 50 Seats."
 

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"You may only use our Navigation SDK or results from our Directions API in or for real-time turn-by-turn navigation (regardless of mode of transportation) for up to 50 Seats."
So, navigating a double-decker bus is strictly prohibited? I can stand it
 

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Originally Posted by otsaloma View Post
Interesting. Good for development and offline use, I guess, but quite impossible for online service use. Mapbox's terms and pricing are very difficult, e.g. "You may only use our Navigation SDK or results from our Directions API in or for real-time turn-by-turn navigation (regardless of mode of transportation) for up to 50 Seats."
Well, we can always setup a service for Valhalla online. I have to make imports for the planet anyway, so we have data available for routing. Same goes for Mapbox tiles, btw. I don't know what are the requirements for the server, but its surely possible if the users would pay for it. Or if some company interested in it would like to back it. Let's see what is going to happen and then look for solutions.

But loosing a company such as Mapzen is a loss. In addition to Valhalla, they were supporting the developer of libpostal.
 

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Well, here's a summary of the routing providers off the top of my head.
  • MapQuest Open: probably a deprecated service after MapQuest's revamp a while back: "They are currently still maintained but their future is still being determined. Sorry, not much more news than that at this time."
  • OSRM: Demo server is very unstable, not usable in production even for a small user base.
  • Mapbox: Impossible terms unless paying $500/mo.
  • HERE: Impossible terms.
  • GraphHopper: The last I looked, they had good routing, but really bad turn-by-turn directions. Will need to recheck this.

So, there might be need to set up a server, but no hurry while MapQuest Open works. And, of course for the current user base who install their own phone OS, running OSM Scout isn't unreasonable either, even though I prefer the ease of online.
 

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Testing on Saera (which still has an optional GraphHopper backend) the directions are still awful - the directions on the route I tested were basically "Head north", "Continue", "Continue", "Continue", "Continue", "Turn left on X street" - where the Continue's should have been interpreted as "Take the ramp onto the interstate", "Merge onto the interstate", "Take exit Y", and "Merge onto Z street".

Edit: Also might want to add Google (impossible terms) and Bing (impossible terms) to that list.
 

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does openrouteservice.org provide an API or is it already listed here?
 

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does openrouteservice.org provide an API or is it already listed here?
I hadn't noticed, seems like they might have turn-by-turn directions, even though they are not displayed on their web demo. I'll look into it.
 

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does openrouteservice.org provide an API or is it already listed here?
Thanks for that, was looking for a free geocoding service and you've just linked one
 

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