Originally Posted by GeraldKo

But you gotta agree with my main point: the iPod touch proves that there is a large market for a non-converged (i.e., non-phone) portable wifi-enabled device (i.e., tablet, with a small "t").

Originally Posted by jsa

Yes, and I absolutely want you to have the device you want and that's why I quoted Peter. I'm not sure if it's my non-native English or why isn't everyone else getting it? I thought he clearly implied there will be multiple devices and that's why I said you still shouldn't lose hope.

"...considering that we haven't even said what which Maemo device will be." and the talk about a lead device to me seems that there are more than one.

Of course, it might just be me imagining stuff between the lines.

Originally Posted by jsa

Yes, and I absolutely want you to have the device you want and that's why I quoted Peter. I'm not sure if it's my non-native English or why isn't everyone else getting it? I thought he clearly implied there will be multiple devices and that's why I said you still shouldn't lose hope.

"...considering that we haven't even said what which Maemo device will be." and the talk about a lead device to me seems that there are more than one.

Of course, it might just be me imagining stuff between the lines.

Originally Posted by johnkzin

You could also look at it the other way: there's also a WILDLY huge market for a tablet+phone in one device -- with the advent of the iPod Touch, the iPhone sales did not suddenly dry up ... nor even level off.

Both options are sound and valid. Hopefully Nokia sees that as well: the right path is not to do JUST one exclusively, but to do BOTH a phone based Maemo platform and a non-phone based Maemo platform.

Originally Posted by GeraldKo

So we may have a good delay, after launch of the N900 phone, before it comes out, if ever. I think that's a shame since they already have a community based on a tablet and I believe there's a larger market that would want such a tablet (but not want the N900 phone) if it were marketed properly. (I especially think it's a shame since it's what I want!)

Originally Posted by nilchak

Actually even though I want me Tablet and need to have my phone too on ti - I still will be part of this very same community - since I still consider the N900 with a 3.5" screen as a tablet - albeit a smaller one - as I still have Maemo on it, can still run all the apps as I do now on my N810 and enjoy the benefits of Maemo 5 as well. The only difference - pluses for me - is I get a better camera too and a voice phone too.

So don't exclude all us guys who want the N900 (provided we can afford it) from the "community". And when you get your version of the tablet - a 4" screened one without voice - we will still be a part of the same community - maemo.

Originally Posted by sjgadsby

Our very community here now commonly watches movies and shows on 4" screens. Movies and shows that--only a few years ago--we would have watched on big, living room TVs.

Originally Posted by danramos

The problem with the phone is that making it have a phone radio embedded (and likely locked, and very, very likely not compatible with the service I prefer or already have, and farther more likely to make the unit needlessly more expensive if I decide not to use said radio) ...which makes it a smartphone--not the type of tablet device that we all bought and loved with the freedoms we want in such a very portable computing device.... this rumored unit strikes me as a crippled device on price and possibly architecture... I'm strongly reconsidering the Pandora since it [has] an aim to make things more open, not less... the near-laptop freedom the previous Internet Tablets gave us--this appears to me like a major step backwards for the community built around a Linux tablet and to the idea of using any software or carrier that we want to use on our small device.

Originally Posted by lemmyslender

I blame apple. If they would have made the iphone/touch with a 4" screen, we wouldn't be having this conversation

Originally Posted by qole

I just want to point out that nothing in the Fremantle SDK nor the oFono documents indicates that anything will be more "locked down" or that we'll be losing any freedom. The open source O/S is exactly what makes this device so disruptive! Yes, this will have a smartphone form factor, but it really isn't a smartphone. For instance, it will run OpenOffice much more quickly than our current tablets. Yes, I said OpenOffice. Do you know any smartphones that can run full desktop versions of popular office suites?

If the leaked docs are true, this will be a handheld laptop that is also a phone.

Originally Posted by qole

Having said all that, I agree that the new radio will drive the price up somewhat, and I probably won't really use it since data is so expensive in Canada. Oh well.