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So I have an n800, and I have loved messing with it by installing debian, etc. but I was wondering, will the n900 be as open as the n800 is/was? I would LOVE to hear that it was still open to the point where one could possibly install debian and integrate it's features as seamlessly as you can on the n800. I think the possible introduction of payed apps could add pressure to lock up the root from the average user, for fear of illegal distribution. I would hate to see maemo stray from it's open roots though (pardon the pun). Does anyone have any info or insights regarding this matter? Thanks =)
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2009-10-02
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Originally Posted by freekyfrogy
Significantly more open, actually.
So I have an n800, and I have loved messing with it by installing debian, etc. but I was wondering, will the n900 be as open as the n800 is/was?
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2009-10-02
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OpenOffice runs fairly well, although Gimp crashes when you touch the picture with a tool for some reason...
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2009-10-02
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Originally Posted by freekyfrogy
Please see qgil's blog post, "Software freedom lovers: here comes Maemo 5".
I think the possible introduction of payed apps could add pressure to lock up the root from the average user...
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2009-10-02
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[Insert an "as open as your momma" joke here.]
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2009-10-02
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Of course the announced switch to Qt will mean saying good bye to lots of well known tools. But hey, it’s all Free software in the end.
What does this mean, ? Does this mean maemo 6 is gonna be whole different platform ?
What does this mean, ? Does this mean maemo 6 is gonna be whole different platform ?
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2009-10-02
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Originally Posted by Bytales
No, it doesn't. GTK will still be supported by the community.
Of course the announced switch to Qt will mean saying good bye to lots of well known tools. But hey, it’s all Free software in the end.
What does this mean, ? Does this mean maemo 6 is gonna be whole different platform ?
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2009-10-02
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Originally Posted by Bytales
Somewhat. The argument is that "only" the toolkit changes, while the rest of the platform stays more or less unchanged. But of course Qt alone is a very big chunk of the platform a developer gets into contact with. You will still be able to use Gtk/Hildon though, as long as it gets properly maintained and updated by the community. How well such applications will integrate will depend primarily on the extend of the community effort, just as it is the case with Qt on Maemo 5.
Of course the announced switch to Qt will mean saying good bye to lots of well known tools. But hey, it’s all Free software in the end.
What does this mean, ? Does this mean maemo 6 is gonna be whole different platform ?
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Following a discussion on Michael Lauer's blog, I've been having a look at the list of closed packages in the nokia-binaries repository and the N900 kernel source code.
The conclusion I've come to is that you need closed source binaries for at least the radio transmitter (fmtx-middleware), OpenGLES acceleration (libgles2), Nokia’s proprietary GUI/calendar/location/... components, GPS (location-daemon) and battery charging (libbmeipc0). All the rest of the hardware seems to have open source drivers in the kernel (although I'm not 100% sure of this).
If I am wrong on any of this, please correct me.
The conclusion I've come to is that you need closed source binaries for at least the radio transmitter (fmtx-middleware), OpenGLES acceleration (libgles2), Nokia’s proprietary GUI/calendar/location/... components, GPS (location-daemon) and battery charging (libbmeipc0). All the rest of the hardware seems to have open source drivers in the kernel (although I'm not 100% sure of this).
If I am wrong on any of this, please correct me.
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2009-10-02
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby
I had a total nerdgasm when I saw the picture on that site... After the hassle of rooting two G1's, to have that out of the box would be incredible! I am DEFINITELY upgrading to this when the end of my contract comes around... When's the expected release date?
Please see qgil's blog post, "Software freedom lovers: here comes Maemo 5".