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2009-12-08
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Originally Posted by jebba
That's a bit unfair, as the guys working on this do not postpone it purposely to save money or something like that.
Nokia knows this, and supposedly was getting set up with a new ISP--in October. Will this happen before Christmas? Spring/Fall? 2012?
I hope that it goes live this month. Also see http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_Sprints/December_09
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2009-12-08
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Originally Posted by Andre Klapper
That page says it's 2% done and "Work started. The first machines are being installed. Linked to ISP move."
http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_Sprints/December_09
See also:
Checking November:
http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_Sprints/November_09
Identical text: "Work started. The first machines are being installed. Linked to ISP move." It also reports 2% being done.
In October,
http://wiki.maemo.org/Maemo.org_Sprints/October_09
"Servers will be available in November only. "
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2009-12-08
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So... Maemo developers can't compile their code locally? I'm confused...
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2009-12-08
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Originally Posted by jebba
A night's worth of holdup is next to nothing when compared to the -testing one.
One holdup for making more applications available is that it takes forever for developers to get programs compiled on the Maemo servers. Things that should take minutes take hour+.
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2009-12-08
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Originally Posted by That One Guy
Yeah, it definitely is confusing... "Must compile apps on Maemo Servers" sounds like a "must distribute app through app store"
So... Maemo developers can't compile their code locally? I'm confused...
WHY?
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2009-12-08
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Originally Posted by hypnotik
"Extras repository process definition" in the wiki may answer some of your questions.
WHY?
And it is not required that an application be compiled by the autobuilder to be included in Extras. That's only a requirement for "free", and there's also "non-free" for closed source software.*
* Free as freedom, not as in beer.
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2009-12-08
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Originally Posted by That One Guy
You can compile locally and install it on your own fone, for example, but if I want to make a package available for testing in extras-devel, I have to upload the source files to the build server, it gets built there, then pushed into extras-devel. I can't upload binary/pre-compiled .debs.
So... Maemo developers can't compile their code locally? I'm confused...
I also saw in IRC that the build box is qemu-arm (!). Here's it compiling erlang, which has taken something like 16 hours (and still running):
Code:
progname erl -- -home /home/builder1/maemo-fremantle-armel-extras-devel/work/erlang-13.b.2.1-dfsg/debian -noshell -noinput -mode minimal -boot start_clean -s erl_compile compile_cmdline @cwd /home/builder1/maemo-fremantle-armel-extras-devel/work/erlang-13.b.2.1-dfsg/lib/debugger/src @warn 1 @option debug_info @option warn_obsolete_guard @outdir ../ebin @files dbg_wx_mon.erl
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2009-12-08
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby
Okay, this makes sense now. Thanks.
"Extras repository process definition" in the wiki may answer some of your questions.
And it is not required that an application be compiled by the autobuilder to be included in Extras. That's only a requirement for "free", and there's also "non-free" for closed source software.*
* Free as freedom, not as in beer.
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2009-12-08
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Originally Posted by jebba
Isn't it sbox+sbdmock? It will use qemu-arm-user _only_ for build tools that are not in any devkit/toolchain. That doesn't include C/C++ compilers, but of course may include Erlang compilers.
I also saw in IRC that the build box is qemu-arm
More hardware won't fix this (but will help). Allowing to upload new devkits to the autobuilder would fix that, but would open another can of worms, so...
A big cause of this is the actual servers building the applications (and hosting things like "brainstorm") are overloaded and sloooooow.
Nokia knows this, and supposedly was getting set up with a new ISP--in October. Will this happen before Christmas? Spring/Fall? 2012?
Let Nokia know you would like to see things sped up... As more users start using the N900, things are just going to slow down *more* if they don't get on the ball with this.
You can vote for this bug as one way to let them know.
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=5818
https://bugs.maemo.org/votes.cgi?act...5818#vote_5818
A bit more info here:
http://wiki.maemo.org/ISP_Move
Thanks!
-Jeff
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Last edited by jebba; 2009-12-08 at 01:16.