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Reading through this thread seems there may not be any significant improvements made to the app but there are a couple of things that should be taken into account in this app or in katana.

1. It is not finger friendly at all due to the use of drop down arrow and the way you scroll from there. It takes me over a minute to find a passage and when I am in Church by the time I find the passage the pastor has moved in. When I try to select a book I struggle and struggle and struggle to be able to scroll. What happens is I press outside the scroll bar time and time and time again. Same with the chapters and verse. Kinetic scrolling is of course the way to go.

This would be much less of a problem if point 2 below was better addressed.

2. The search needs to be significantly improved so it is easy to find verses. Not sure what app my wife uses on her blackberry but when she types in a verse e.g. Matt 7:7 or Matthew 7:7 it will take her straight there. On Rapier it would give a list of results none of which would be the actual verse you searched.
 
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Reading through this thread seems there may not be any significant improvements made to the app but there are a couple of things that should be taken into account in this app or in katana.

1. It is not finger friendly at all due to the use of drop down arrow and the way you scroll from there. It takes me over a minute to find a passage and when I am in Church by the time I find the passage the pastor has moved in. When I try to select a book I struggle and struggle and struggle to be able to scroll. What happens is I press outside the scroll bar time and time and time again. Same with the chapters and verse. Kinetic scrolling is of course the way to go.

This would be much less of a problem if point 2 below was better addressed.

2. The search needs to be significantly improved so it is easy to find verses. Not sure what app my wife uses on her blackberry but when she types in a verse e.g. Matt 7:7 or Matthew 7:7 it will take her straight there. On Rapier it would give a list of results none of which would be the actual verse you searched.
Yep; both are being taken into account in designing Katana. There are a number of usability gaps which helped it to make sense to port Rapier and see what things work and don't work. Rapier presented a really solid foundation, we're just looking to sharpen the edge a good bit.

Concerning the question about modern translations with Rapier/Katana (and pretty much any computer system): I'd refer you to this piece that explains why things are the way they are:
http://mobileministrymagazine.com/20...ile-bible.html

In short, unless the publisher opens up, its hard to make things available.
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I installed this a couple of weeks ago (when I last posted) and I don't really have anything to add. I have a couple of Bible modules working fine. The search function is a bit cumbersome, and the scrolling leaves a bit to be desired, but it does exactly what it says on the tin. It works fine, and meets my needs adequately. If a sparklier version comes along with Katana, that will be great, but thanks go to all the Rapier people for the 'port' which is certainly usable.

One item I'd personally love to have as an add-on, when people get bored with all the work they're already doing () would be the lectionary. In fact, if someone could create a lectionary flat file - or even better an add-on to the calendar! - so I could check next week's readings, look them up (in rapier/katana) and make scribbles (in xournal and saved as pdf...) my sermon creation would be greatly enhanced. Well, it would be easier anyway. Not sure anything could help my sermons.
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Originally Posted by RevdKathy View Post
One item I'd personally love to have as an add-on, when people get bored with all the work they're already doing () would be the lectionary. In fact, if someone could create a lectionary flat file - or even better an add-on to the calendar! - so I could check next week's readings, look them up (in rapier/katana) and make scribbles (in xournal and saved as pdf...) my sermon creation would be greatly enhanced. Well, it would be easier anyway. Not sure anything could help my sermons.
Not sure if lectionaries have been retrofitted for digital consumption as easily as Bibles have. But its worth asking a few folks if this has been done. Its most probably not something left to the free software/open source movement to do easily I'm sure. And there are different lectionaries and sacramentals depending on one's denomination. If the effort has already been started here, then maybe Katana - and free software/open source in general - could prove to be quite beneficial to those parts of the Body.

I'll poke a few folks and see if there anything that could be found.

EDIT/ADD: to any of you with lectionaries near your fingers, would you mind sharing the publisher's name (either PM or here directly). It would be those persons to speak to for this.

To the developers: we've talked about making some closed-source modules, can any of you PM me a basic schema (or two) that you were thinking about for this. I'll include a high-level talk of this to those persons that I reach out so that they understand the cost/benefit for them in doing this.
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There's a sort of general, global ecumenical three year lectionary, I think. the Methodist church in the UK switched to it about 10 years ago. This one? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Revised_Common_Lectionary

Actually, it's here: so a linkie to that page would probably provide what's needed as long as one were online. http://lectionary.library.vanderbilt.edu/
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I used to have it on my palm device in a general ministry package. It didn't integrate to the Bible, but did keep notes for the week attached.
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