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#181
Originally Posted by Bratag View Post
The second thing to note here is that the ENTIRE OS is going opensource with MeeGo. Should Nokia simply stop supporting us "poor" N900 users then there is nothing stopping us simply compiling the OS for ourselves. No more complaints about closed source media players etc etc.
Nothing stops them from still using binary drivers like every distribution can which won't help support of already binary platforms like the n900...

Also, looking at http://meego.com/about/licensing-policy it seems they're going the Android route of licensing, GPL at the bottom, BSD above (ie: vendor can go proprietary at the top, and will...). Or maybe I'm over reacting...

Anyway, I still think this is a incredibly great move, just a few comments to make it perfect ;-)
 

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#182
Originally Posted by soeiro View Post
I'd used RPMs a long time ago, in Red Hat, but it was the equivalent of DLL hell in Windows. At that time, there seemed to be no central repository, so you had to manually hunt individually RPM packages on the net to fulfill the dependencies. I'm sure that has been fixed by now, but I am curious.

What is the advantage of using RPM instead of using DEB and basing the system on the Debian distribution? Specially since they have support for more architectures then others?
personal preference. i am an opensuse person rather than an debian/ubuntu user, so i am happiest using rpm oriented services such as Yast and zypper.
 
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#183
Originally Posted by norbertauslinz View Post
found on
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2359259,00.asp

Oistano pointed to Nokia's N900, a Linux-based smartphone introduced last year, as an example of devices that would benefit from MeeGo.
I like Kai's statement:

"We can look at the future of Maemo with no delays. This is like putting that development [environment] into steroids and making it faster in the future."

Although I would hope he said putting steroids into the development, and not the other way around.
 
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#184
hi togehter so at first i have no idea what i shall think about this hot news..

But i know that the Vibe in this Forum is very negative since the last weeks. How comes that you lough about the users you call " mainstream users that beliveing into the amazing n900 marketing pictures?" i was here since october last year. November i did my account here and buyed early my n900 for nokia.de for over 600 Eur nearly 815 $.

I know you will say hey in USA this device never did cost that much but here in germany it did.

I really was around this Forum also at the IRC Channel and so one. i have read many blogs and phonefreak forums all said yes boy buy that n900 its soo amazing.

And i guess nobody really can show me some Forum Threads that was actual this time where anybody said Stop dont buy the N900 its step 5 and they will bring a meamo6 - meego whatever out next year thats maybe not compatible with the n900..

So for the guys that crying out now you are a Troll iam not. I like open Source Projekts, iam not a Apple Fanboy, i know how a Bugzilla works and also did report Mameo5 Bugs couse i like my N900 but i really have to say it need still a lot of Development to be a really good Device.

best regards Crown

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#185
Originally Posted by myk View Post
Really? It is a long time since I had a "made in finland" Nokia. Is the Korean N900 line in a Nokia-owned factory?
my point is Nokia are the manufacturer of the devices they stick there name on
Google are not that of the nexus its a HTC device so why is it not marketed as that.
its the equivalent of samsung making a device putting a nokia contributed OS on it lets say maemo5 and then marketing it as a Nokia
 
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#186
Originally Posted by Bratag View Post
People people people. Admittedly this is a big announcement and change but...(snip for brevity)...that the ENTIRE OS is going opensource with MeeGo. Should Nokia simply stop supporting us "poor" N900 users then there is nothing stopping us simply compiling the OS for ourselves. No more complaints about closed source media players etc etc.

This is a change - and change can be scary - but if we take a deep breath and realize where this change can take us, I think we will all see the advantages to this merger.

(Heck at a basic level larger devs are certainly going to be looking at this platform with both Nokia AND Intel behind it)
Exactly, you hammered that nail. I'm tickled pink. In the long run, this will be a Very Good Thing!
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#187
I suspect this is Nokia's way of offloading the sole responsibility for the OS, which is probably good in the long term. I am concerned about bug fixes for my n900 being kept up, and with continued compatibility with new stuff coming out.

But the N900 is not a computer that I can attach peripherals to--it is pretty static in its hardware. Unlike with a Linux distro such as Ubuntu, they don't have to keep up with the newest network interfaces and usb drives and such. But they do have to keep up with existing hardware issues like the front facing camera, and I can only hope that they will continue to do so.

But apps have always been the real weakness of this phone. Aside from Firefox, we are not seeing a maemo logo next to the iphone and windows logo on lots of mobile sites. If this new system is seen as having some sort of critical mass, it means that arm-based QT apps will be on the menu for developers. Especially if those apps can be done in a higher level language like Python that will make "porting" (by that I mean recompiling for a new processor) unneccesary. And that may include symbian phones.

In short: If Nokia pushes QT as the primary development system for MeeGo (and even if they don't) I suspect this will lead to MANY more apps available for the N900 than we currently see.

P.S. we have seen people running OSX, Windows 95, and Windows 98 on the N900. I predict that within days of the source code being posted, someone will have MeeGo ported to N900. Drivers for the cameras, accelerometer, phone, and GPS will be a question as to whether it is an experiment or an actual upgrade for the phone.
 
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#188
Anyone else noticed that the image on the meego site http://meego.com/ looks like a n900?
 
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#189
The MeeGo (ugh name...) webpage needs a BIG tab saying "Users", dedicated to explain why, as a user, is good and interesting to be in the platform. Right now, a common user just sees Maemo and the N900 fading away... just check the posts of this thread.

Once again, WE ARE NOT THE USERS! It is too late to get some marketing/PR people on the MeeGo team?
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#190
LOL, I noticed that and just tweeted about it, too. I was wondering if it was only me that noticed.. I hope its a N900...
 
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