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2010-05-16
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Originally Posted by xomm
functionality over form perhaps?
That website of your's, dollyknot, by the way, is aesthetically painful. >.<
I have been rootling around in it for the past 3 days and it is a little treasure trove of unusual delights.
so on this one... +1 for dollyknots aesthetically painful website
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2010-05-16
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#93
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Originally Posted by gryedouge
Thx
functionality over form perhaps?
I have been rootling around in it for the past 3 days and it is a little treasure trove of unusual delights.
so on this one... +1 for dollyknots aesthetically painful website
The Chinese used to cripple their women by crushing their feet 'coz they thought women with smaller feet looked sexier.
Aesthetics is a minefield, but the sad thing is at the moment, in the main it seems to run human affairs, in as much as - if it looks all right, it is all right, never mind the quality, feel the width.
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2010-05-16
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#94
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Originally Posted by Flynx
It does have lots of problems
I like the idea, but it has problems. Like what happens if a plane crashes into it (accidentally or intentionally)?
like what happens if the tether snaps, its not just the people in / on the elevator that would perish, but how much damage would be caused by the whiplash of the tethers
What if it gets stuck (at the top or half way)
In principle it does seem a logical solution though, once you get your head round the concept that it may actually work
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2010-05-16
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#95
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you would have to make sure that it has multiple tethers i suppose and that each are constructed out of an extremely durable material to be honest its benefits far outweigh its negatives, also we cannot let terrorists dictate what we do or dont do for that is exactly what they want
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2010-05-16
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#96
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Originally Posted by *Sonic*
I hope you realize this proposed elevator would have to be 35,786 km long to work.
It does have lots of problems
like what happens if the tether snaps, its not just the people in / on the elevator that would perish, but how much damage would be caused by the whiplash of the tethers
What if it gets stuck (at the top or half way)
In principle it does seem a logical solution though, once you get your head round the concept that it may actually work
Use the rocket fuel on the moon to open the door, far simpler.
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2010-05-16
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no the elevatoe only needs to leave the earths gravitational pull, to some orbital station type thingamybob. then launch from there uses... (does some quick maths using the formulae posted earlier) ...a lot less fuel!
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2010-05-16
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Originally Posted by Dollyknot
It would have to be longer than that because you would need a counter-balance extending farther into space.
I hope you realize this proposed elevator would have to be 35,786 km long to work.
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2010-05-16
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Originally Posted by Flynx
Erm 35,786 km is geostationary orbit, perhaps we have a different understanding of Newtonian celestial mechanics, your statement to wit -
It would have to be longer than that because you would need a counter-balance extending farther into space.
" Well, mass cancelled out in the equations. So the mass of the vehicle doesn't matter. However much energy it takes to get to orbit, it will take 90% of that energy to slow back down."
Your understanding of mass seems to differ from mine, in terms of the economics of the equation.
To my limited understanding, the more mass you have, the greater the cost to get it to orbit, sort of dollar * Kg, if part of the mass exists up there already, you need less fuel, to get less fuel up there already.
To understand recursion, first you must understand recursion, lol.
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2010-05-17
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Originally Posted by Dollyknot
Yes and I agree with myself
Mm when the whole stack is ready to rumble it weighs 2,000,000 kg, the idea of getting all that weight off the ground boggles the mind.
Space ship one fully laden, weighs 3,600 kg.
So how much moon mined delta v would it take to accelerate SS1to escape velocity?
Obviously the moon tug will have to have expend some fuel, getting from the moon to earth orbit and slowing down to the speed of SS1 which would be 3,518 km/h, then accelerate the whole kit and caboodle, back up up to orbital velocity and beyond?
I like the idea, but it has problems. Like what happens if a plane crashes into it (accidentally or intentionally)?