Hi all,

On Wednesday, we held a follow-up IRC meeting around the Maemo Brainstorm that ran for a couple of weeks (mostly in Talk):

These are the minutes.

On a personal note, I was disappointed that more people were not present to force the agenda for maemo.org, in spite of being very vocal on Talk (and in general) about the future of Maemo. As you can see from the minutes, there was only one person who made one comment outside of the paid staff, Tero and Daniel from Nokia, and GA (who was the only member of the council who was there).

The meeting felt very much like the sprint meetings - the Maemo staff setting their own agenda, hoping that we're doing what people want.

This is your chance to help decide what Maemo will look like in 6 months time, please take some time to review, and if there are obviously important things you want to see done, shout now.

* Maemo Brainstorm Meeting Minutes *

Contributors (alphabetical order, with number of comments in-channel):


andre__ (12)
bergie (76)
danielwilms (10)
dneary (136)
ferenc (22)
GAN900/GeneralAntilles (74)
JimiDini (1)
tekojo (1)
X-Fade (68)

Chair: GeneralAntilles (until 0:46)/dneary (from 0:46 to 2:04)

Agenda:

1. Review feedback from brainstorm
2. Identify top priorities based on the feedback

Reminder of brainstorm categories:

1. Downloads
2. Packages
3. Wiki
4. Talk & Mailing lists
5. Bugzilla
6. Planet & News
7. Garage & Developer Services
8. Community workings


Agreement that the main goal is to focus on things which can provide long-term
support for existing Maemo users, given that there will be no official Nokia
release of MeeGo for N900.

Here are the general top priorities we agreed in the meeting (subject, of course,
to discussion in case there is violent disagreement):

Overall priority for maemo.org:

* SSO for all maemo.org services (main site, wiki, bugzilla, talk)
1) CAS and the user directory service up
2) Midgard talking with CAS
3) MediaWiki talking with CAS
etc

Garage

* Propose putting it into maintenance mode
* Disable project registration once similar services exist for MeeGo and align with them
* Could shut down Garage Bugtracker & send everyone to Bugzilla
* Same for mailing lists - everyone to Mailman
* Shutting it down would require providing a migration path to gitorious (or similar services)

Packages and downloads

* Switch from autobuilder to OBS
* Move Downloads web interface on top of Packages
* Release the Maemo app installer
* Enable donations through Downloads pages of applications

Bugzilla

* Upgrade to Bugzilla 3.4
* Triage all the PR 1.2 related bugs coming in

wiki

* Version wiki pages with categories according to which devices/OS version they apply to
* Get rid of (or at least hide better) documentation for Maemo versions <= 4
* Infrastructure to allow easy wikification of individual Talk posts
* Collect Maemo 5 Use cases
* Improve search and identification of related pages for Wiki to reduce overlap

Planet & News:

* View comments (expandable) in Planet
* Include tweets/identica/qaiku in social news

Basically no suggestions for news & planet outside of planned Nemein work

Talk:

* Allow thread creators to change subject line
* Enable email to forum bridge
* Add RSS feeds of posts per thread, and per forum (currently the RSS feed is "new threads in forum")

No suggestions for mailing lists

Community workings:

The topic was deferred, because the meeting ran long, and there were not many people there to discuss it.


Cheers,
Dave.

I really would have been there. Job and serious health issues have been interfering unfortunately. Nothing I can do about the former and I am fighting the latter daily.

Thanks for summing all that up!

I don't understand maybe about half of the things up there, but at least nothing seems like a bad idea. I also haven't really understood how "self-governed" everything around here is. I couldn't imagine the level!

Oh well, maybe I will have caught up next time.

during the meeting, I was, unfortunately, bitterly injecting my piece about the declining level of encagement around maemo.org. MeeGo: Good for the future, bad for Maemo. Oh well.

Thanks, Dave, for summing this up. Hopefully we can get something rolling here since Nokia has sort of dropped the long-term support requirements in our lap.