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Originally Posted by WereCatf
Why is it illegal to reverse engineer something that's patented? If it's patented it's even published.
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Originally Posted by Master of Gizmo
patent means that the protocol is protected. even if reverse engineering itself would be legal, using the product created with reverse engineering would be illegal...
Why is it illegal to reverse engineer something that's patented? If it's patented it's even published.
forcing people to buy brand x device just for using some integrated messaging protocol surely feels idiotic when you have msn, facebook, google talk and ovi chat with one single jabber account connected 24/7 to your n900...
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2010-11-07
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don't feed the trolls...
He has just 1 post.....
He has just 1 post.....
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2010-11-07
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ossipena:
>patent means that the protocol is protected.
What does "protected" mean here?
If you mean that you can't write your own implementation, patents are bad but they are not that bad (yet). You just can't distribute the result.
>even if reverse engineering itself would be legal,
1) It is. (I am not a lawyer and this isn't legal advice)
2) How would anyone know you did?
>using the product created with reverse engineering would be illegal...
No. You can use/create whatever the hell you want on your own devices. At least in free countries.
Maybe you aren't allowed to give it to anyone else, though.
Last edited by dannym; 2010-11-07 at 15:34.
>patent means that the protocol is protected.
What does "protected" mean here?
If you mean that you can't write your own implementation, patents are bad but they are not that bad (yet). You just can't distribute the result.
>even if reverse engineering itself would be legal,
1) It is. (I am not a lawyer and this isn't legal advice)
2) How would anyone know you did?
>using the product created with reverse engineering would be illegal...
No. You can use/create whatever the hell you want on your own devices. At least in free countries.
Maybe you aren't allowed to give it to anyone else, though.
Last edited by dannym; 2010-11-07 at 15:34.
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2010-11-07
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Originally Posted by dannym
Actually, you are in breach of a patent even if you are not distributing the result. It's not copyright, copyright law applies when you distribute something, patent law applies always. Thus, even if you didn't distribute the result you'd still be in breach and could be sued legally and there's nothing you can do about it.
What does "protected" mean here?
If you mean that you can't write your own implementation, patents are bad but they are not that bad (yet). You just can't distribute the result.
(This doesn't apply to countries that do not honor patents)
>even if reverse engineering itself would be legal,
1) It is. (I am not a lawyer and this isn't legal advice)
2) How would anyone know you did?
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Okay so the outlook seems very bleek just as I suspected. What a shame. Guess I am stuck with carrying a blackberry around for the forseeable future. What a shame. Wish Nokia had thought of such a messaging service before RIM and implemented it just as well so all my friends and family would have just stuck with their Nokias instead of getting blackberries and this issue would never have arisen.
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Originally Posted by etuoyo
Essentially, the only reason that BBM exists is because a decade ago americans and canadians didn't know what SMS's were, so Blackberry decided to implement their own messaging system exclusive to their phones. The rest of the world just used SMS's.
Okay so the outlook seems very bleek just as I suspected. What a shame. Guess I am stuck with carrying a blackberry around for the forseeable future. What a shame. Wish Nokia had thought of such a messaging service before RIM and implemented it just as well so all my friends and family would have just stuck with their Nokias instead of getting blackberries and this issue would never have arisen.
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2010-11-07
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Originally Posted by nidO
Is there some similar phenomenon now that iPhone/Android etc users don't know what instant messaging is, and thus get all excited about whatsapp or whatever this stuff is? I completely don't understand why these things are being used. I'm sure there are plenty of clients (doesn't Fring do instant messaging?) for these devices that use one of the many open protocols that pidgin can handle or the n900 does natively. What on earth is the advantage to using BBM or whatsapp or pingy or whatever these other things are?
Essentially, the only reason that BBM exists is because a decade ago americans and canadians didn't know what SMS's were, so Blackberry decided to implement their own messaging system exclusive to their phones. The rest of the world just used SMS's.
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I doubt the Caribbean governments care about this legal stuff, I mean I live here bal, anyway, interesting thread indeed.
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2010-11-07
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Originally Posted by travik
Most heavy chatters have now migrated to BBM. So if you want to chat with them you have to do the same.
Is there some similar phenomenon now that iPhone/Android etc users don't know what instant messaging is, and thus get all excited about whatsapp or whatever this stuff is? I completely don't understand why these things are being used. I'm sure there are plenty of clients (doesn't Fring do instant messaging?) for these devices that use one of the many open protocols that pidgin can handle or the n900 does natively. What on earth is the advantage to using BBM or whatsapp or pingy or whatever these other things are?
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