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2010-11-14
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Originally Posted by ericsson
Open fMMS
There are two things that makes it useless, and I mean totally, especially combined:
1. No multiple recipients.
2. Unable to forward an MMS in the proper way (should work like e-mail from a user perspective).
Click 'New MMS'
Add recipient
Insert Image/Sound byte
Add text
Press send
How is this different from any other implementation of Multimedia Messaging, not picture messaging which is completely different?
Originally Posted by ericsson
If you don't even have the latest version, how can you moan?
But reading through this thread I see that both these are fixed. That is very good, it makes fMMS actually usable, but still very limited. I haven't tried the new version yet though.
"I use windows XP but I'm pissed off because it doesn't do what Windows 7 does".
How ridiculous is that?!
Originally Posted by ericsson
Frals is working on this, but TBH considering Nokia didn't even bother with an MMS app I think this slight shortcoming (which no one I know would ever use anyway) can be overlooked.
Then there are a subject line. I cant find any. This is important, just as in e-mail.
Originally Posted by ericsson
You can if they are within the 300kb limit (set my the networks, not fMMS)
Ability to send movies.
Originally Posted by ericsson
I'm sure this will come with the ability to add multiple images.
Ability to send a picture with sound (this is one of the main basic functionality of MMS), and the one that is used most.
And of course playback of those things.
(what's the point though, it all has to be under 300kb)
Originally Posted by ericsson
This wasn't there natively so go whine to Nokia as they're the ones responsible. Don't ***** about what frals has done to circumvent this shortcoming.
Anyway what strikes me the most, is that this is BASICS. Ability to send a picture is fine, but that is not what MMS is all about.
Originally Posted by ericsson
Then describe what you want, if you did this ONCE it would avoid all this unnecessary noise.
Still, I see one after the other asking me to be specific, as if MMS is some new exotic functionality in a phone. I mean, MMS is old, as old as the camera phone, and if you have no idea what MMS is all about, then STFU! All these holier than though 'this is a community, not Nokia' children here - it is pathetic.
Originally Posted by ericsson
Am I missing something..you can do this and always have been able to.
MMS is as standard as SMS, as standard as e-mail, as standard as a virtual terminal, and so are the basic functionality. I am talking the most basic here, as in the ability to enter text in an SMS, hit 'enter' in a virtual terminal and so on.
Originally Posted by ericsson
No, you describe what you want. Why should WE have to do the running fo something YOU want.
Just pick up the cheapest dumbphone and learn.
Originally Posted by ericsson
Well you did say his app "sucks"
Frals is doing a great job, I have never said othervise.
Originally Posted by ericsson
In what way, describe how you would like it to work.
But the functionality of fMMS is severly lacking, to the point of uselesness for everyday MMS use.
Originally Posted by ericsson
Err, I would have done that to start with.
At least the version I have installed right now, it cannot be used because it lacks basic functionality.
Originally Posted by ericsson
Err, yea, that might be worth a try.
But I will give the newest version a try.
So far you have one valid point to your otherwise pathetic argument/rant/moan/PMS fit.
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2010-11-14
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@ericson
None of the "holier than thou" people on this forum have any problem with anyone highlighting the shortcomings of any app, as long as it is done in a constructive and non combative way.
the problem is not what you say but how you say it, (paraphrasing here)
"Is there another mms app? fmms sucks" & "fmms lacks bascic mms features, it sucks"
Instead you could have just said,
"is there another mms app?" & "in fmms i would like to see ____" or "fmms would be better if ___"
If you whine and demand you will only ever get a negative responce,
if you would like to see features in an app then ask for them politely (you'd be suprised at how often thats all it takes) devs aren't mind readers.
and finaly a responce that is often over used on here but is very relevant now,
if you think you could do better code it your self.
None of the "holier than thou" people on this forum have any problem with anyone highlighting the shortcomings of any app, as long as it is done in a constructive and non combative way.
the problem is not what you say but how you say it, (paraphrasing here)
"Is there another mms app? fmms sucks" & "fmms lacks bascic mms features, it sucks"
Instead you could have just said,
"is there another mms app?" & "in fmms i would like to see ____" or "fmms would be better if ___"
If you whine and demand you will only ever get a negative responce,
if you would like to see features in an app then ask for them politely (you'd be suprised at how often thats all it takes) devs aren't mind readers.
and finaly a responce that is often over used on here but is very relevant now,
if you think you could do better code it your self.
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2010-11-14
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was tidying up my fmms inbox there & really couldve done with a delete multiple option.
not the end of the world, it is great to have fmms (i have had my n900 months before this was available so i know how frustrating it was not to have it) but while we are trying to make positive suggestions i thought i would just mention it. & while i was saving them to a folder it might have been good to remember the folder i was using.
apart from the lacking function of its ability to raise my kids & cut the lawn i am well happy with it so thanks again frals.
i am not a dev so cant wite this myself before anyone suggests.
not the end of the world, it is great to have fmms (i have had my n900 months before this was available so i know how frustrating it was not to have it) but while we are trying to make positive suggestions i thought i would just mention it. & while i was saving them to a folder it might have been good to remember the folder i was using.
apart from the lacking function of its ability to raise my kids & cut the lawn i am well happy with it so thanks again frals.
i am not a dev so cant wite this myself before anyone suggests.
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2010-11-15
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well, I'm in the same boat as ericsson. Yes, it sucks and Nokia support from Finland told her "sorry this phone doesn't support MMS". Even my old Motorola v195 supports MMS so why not a top of the line phone? Are you telling me that I can't get a cup holder in my BMW 7 series? Tell me you wouldn't be upset with that.
I got this phone for my wife as a birthday present and all she does with her friends is to send and receive SMS and MMS messages. She is up in Toronto and there is a particular issue with this phone being on the Rogers network that it can't send MMS messages without putting her on a data plan, which she doesn't h ave. She has gone to the Rogers store numerous times and all they could get working is MMS receive but not send, DESPITE HAVING THE LATEST VERSION OF fMMS INSTALLED. I've had arguments with her about the phone for the past month since I got it for her and was about to throw it against the wall because the phone can't do this basic function 100% without some arcane hacking by a Rogers store smart phone specialist and it's only working 50% for her.
SORRY, but this NEEDS TO GET POISHED AND FULL IMPLEMENTED and someone needs to explain why a simple cell phone function such as MMS that has existed for a decade ISN'T IMPLEMENTED NATIVELY ON A TOP OF THE LINE NOKIA PHONE?
I got this phone for my wife as a birthday present and all she does with her friends is to send and receive SMS and MMS messages. She is up in Toronto and there is a particular issue with this phone being on the Rogers network that it can't send MMS messages without putting her on a data plan, which she doesn't h ave. She has gone to the Rogers store numerous times and all they could get working is MMS receive but not send, DESPITE HAVING THE LATEST VERSION OF fMMS INSTALLED. I've had arguments with her about the phone for the past month since I got it for her and was about to throw it against the wall because the phone can't do this basic function 100% without some arcane hacking by a Rogers store smart phone specialist and it's only working 50% for her.
SORRY, but this NEEDS TO GET POISHED AND FULL IMPLEMENTED and someone needs to explain why a simple cell phone function such as MMS that has existed for a decade ISN'T IMPLEMENTED NATIVELY ON A TOP OF THE LINE NOKIA PHONE?
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2010-11-15
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Originally Posted by romanianusa
EXACTLY MY POINT.
fmms is useless to me because you have to have data plan to receive or send pictures. You can't do it with wi-fi or can't do it within the concept of txt messaging. My oldest phone which ISN'T a smartphone and was 5 years old...was able to receive pictures through txt messaging and this smartphone can't!!
SO YES, IT SUCKS hence the original opinion of Mr. ericsson.
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2010-11-15
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n900fan75,
get ready for good spanking. MMS uses gprs/edge/3g etc data and that is fact. You might need to contact your service provider so that they can enable mms service for your account.
Nokia support might suck but free app from frals that adds mms cabability to this device is huge bonus and imo frals app does excatly what you normally would expect from mms app. Anything else is just bonus and making it shine more.
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And seriously. If your logic is on this level:
"..Are you telling me that I can't get a cup holder in my BMW 7 series? Tell me you wouldn't be upset with that..."
I would wish in your position that my parents would have used birth control. I bet that there is gazillion cup holders out there that you can buy and attach to your BMW.
Last edited by slender; 2010-11-15 at 06:54.
get ready for good spanking. MMS uses gprs/edge/3g etc data and that is fact. You might need to contact your service provider so that they can enable mms service for your account.
Nokia support might suck but free app from frals that adds mms cabability to this device is huge bonus and imo frals app does excatly what you normally would expect from mms app. Anything else is just bonus and making it shine more.
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And seriously. If your logic is on this level:
"..Are you telling me that I can't get a cup holder in my BMW 7 series? Tell me you wouldn't be upset with that..."
I would wish in your position that my parents would have used birth control. I bet that there is gazillion cup holders out there that you can buy and attach to your BMW.
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Last edited by slender; 2010-11-15 at 06:54.
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2010-11-15
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Originally Posted by benny1967
You are not helping. Not me, not frals, not Nokia. Living in a make believe world where fMMS 'solves' the lack of MMS is not helping. 99% of MMS messages is in fact 'post cards' - images with text. These are sent for fun, and often are some cartoonish thing. These are circulated like mad during holidays for instance.
your problem seems to be - no, your problem is that you yourself use MMS in a way that's technically covered by the specification, but totally out of this world. i feel for you, because usually it's me who is in this situation and confronted with people who just couldn't care less.
but going as far as saying that the ability to send pictures with sound "is one of the main basic functionality of MMS" and "the one that is used most" doesn't really add to your credibility. i wouldn't even know how to do this with my symbian phone, and i'm one of those who use MMS for everything. (including videos and multipart slide shows for those who stayed at home.)
my personal opinion is you should accept that fMMS covers 99% of what people use MMS for very, very well. it's the most popular application for the N900. saying it lacks certain functionality for corner cases and could always be improved is something everybody here in this forum would probably agree on, including frals. saying that fMMS "sucks", though, is the most bizarre statement i could think of in this context.
I don't care. fMMS can send and receive pictures, thats it. For everything else it suck. Perid. End of story.
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2010-11-15
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Originally Posted by slender
What I meant to say is that data plans in Canada cost a lot and my wife has a what Rogers call MMS package for $15 a month. And what Rogers does on their own specific phones is to "open up the data a little bit" enough to get the MMS messages through, without incurring actual data usage. But they have not been able to do that with this phone after being in the store for 3 hours with their tech hacking away at the phone. They eventually got receive to work, but not send. I love the community but the community here has not helped me at all with this problem. I have posts else where and no one has been able to help. Network problem or not, if an old dumb phone can send/receive MMS without using a data plan, a.k.a being on a MMS bundle/package, then why can't this phone do the same?
n900fan75,
get ready for good spanking. MMS uses gprs/edge/3g etc data and that is fact. You might need to contact your service provider so that they can enable mms service for your account.
Nokia support might suck but free app from frals that adds mms cabability to this device is huge bonus and imo frals app does excatly what you normally would expect from mms app. Anything else is just bonus and making it shine more.
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2010-11-15
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Originally Posted by slender
Thanks for the sarcasm and hence my point that this community is useless and doesn't help me one bit. My other post about wi-fi problem recieved no real solution either. Really thanks to this great community.
n900fan75,
get ready for good spanking. MMS uses gprs/edge/3g etc data and that is fact. You might need to contact your service provider so that they can enable mms service for your account.
Nokia support might suck but free app from frals that adds mms cabability to this device is huge bonus and imo frals app does excatly what you normally would expect from mms app. Anything else is just bonus and making it shine more.
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And seriously. If your logic is on this level:
"..Are you telling me that I can't get a cup holder in my BMW 7 series? Tell me you wouldn't be upset with that..."
I would wish in your position that my parents would have used birth control. I bet that there is gazillion cup holders out there that you can buy and attach to your BMW.
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but going as far as saying that the ability to send pictures with sound "is one of the main basic functionality of MMS" and "the one that is used most" doesn't really add to your credibility. i wouldn't even know how to do this with my symbian phone, and i'm one of those who use MMS for everything. (including videos and multipart slide shows for those who stayed at home.)
my personal opinion is you should accept that fMMS covers 99% of what people use MMS for very, very well. it's the most popular application for the N900. saying it lacks certain functionality for corner cases and could always be improved is something everybody here in this forum would probably agree on, including frals. saying that fMMS "sucks", though, is the most bizarre statement i could think of in this context.