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#111
Originally Posted by alcalde View Post
You've actually seen MeeGo?
Meego is based on Fedora which is a normal linux/x11 distro and since I've been a linux user since 1998 i can say I've seen meego lots of times. This is what people don't seem to get that as long as the system uses linux/x11 and comes with a c compiler it doesn't matter if it's called Maemo or Meego or something else. All gazillions of open source apps that already exists will run just fine with slight modifications to squeeze it into a smaller display.
 
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#112
Originally Posted by naabi View Post
Quote from Engadget, to me this seems like true multi-tasking, but I don't have the facts.

Microsoft indicated it didn't previously allow for third-party multitasking due to battery life concerns, but those concerns have been mitigated -- somehow. We're not sure of the API-level details that's letting all this magic happen, but we'll look for those later. All we know right know is that it looks great and we can't wait to try it out for ourselves.
That's actually the same article I read; thanks. I think things are still a bit unclear. It does appear that if their schedule doesn't slip that Microsoft is going to make a lot of improvements this year to WP7, probably in time for the launch of the first Nokia WP7 phone. It's been generally positively reviewed for essentially a version 1.0 release and if it picks up pace this rapidly there's no way people can call it doomed or a failure, especially if it's sitting on Nokia hardware.

The demo IE9 for Windows Phone 7 support HTML5 and speed test with iPhone was also very impressive.
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#113
Originally Posted by gerbick View Post
According to Verizon, they see the three horse race as iOS, Android and Blackberry. WP7 isn't one of the ones they need.

The path to overcome even Blackberry will be hard at the moment until more enterprise solutions are in place for Microsoft/Nokia.
I don't agree with them in that Blackberry ruled the smartphone world when that meant business users. Now general consumers are in the smartphone market and that's changed the requirements. Blackberry's tablet does look very impressive, but their first attempts at a general consumer smart phone not nearly as much.

You're correct about Blackberry's lead in the business market. As Microsoft is on most business desktops, products like their Exchange are peforming back-end duty in a lot of businesses and Microsoft has a huge number of developers I think they're in a good position to be able to compete on an enterprise solutions level in the long-run, though It'll be interesting to see if Microsoft can produce a phone OS that straddles both markets for smart phones or not.
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#114
Originally Posted by ossipena View Post
there is still a risk of getting caught if something is officially announced and the opposite is executed...
For MS, fines and litigation are part of doing business. The EU's fine of what was it $2M/day? is pocket change when they're making several tens of millions a day.
 

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#115
alcalde, that's not even a valid opinion, it's just incorrect information you're spreading.
MeeGo was never under development for "several years", unless you're counting maemo and moblin for some reason.
MeeGo is perfectly deployable on tablets and possibly other devices like the in vehicle infotainment or whatever it's called. It's just the handset version that is lagging.
Also, you and Elop are both crazy if you think a Windows Mobile device can compete in emerging markets any time soon. It has a $30 license fee and much higher hardware requirements over symbian.
Do you not believe this guy?
http://blog.mardy.it/2011/02/committed-to-linux.html
"MeeGo is ready, it's not an R&D project: a MeeGo phone will be released"
Rich Green, Nokia CTO, speaking at MWC apparently called the meego device the n950 yesterday, and confirmed it will be a phone.
Intel has promised Medfield in production this year, and when MeeGo 1.2 is complete in 2.5 months, it will probably be the only OS properly optimized for their processor. Intel was doing most of the work for the core OS anyways, just take a look at the assigned bugs for 1.2 handset.
 
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#116
**** man how many of these are there
http://nokiaplanz.com/
http://nokiaplanx.com/ LOL

oh... lots


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#117
well, one more:

http://nokiaplan9.com/
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#118
Originally Posted by alcalde View Post
Nokia chose a new OS backed by the world's largest software developer that needs them as much as they need a new OS. They'll have the resources of Microsoft developing the OS while Nokia can concentrate on its hardware prowess. Nokia also gets to customize the OS and influence its future direction, which is like having your own OS except this one is ready to deploy and won't have R&D costs associated with it.
WP7 is not suitable for high end phones because it doesn't support multi-core architecture. All high-end phones published in Barcelona have dual-core app-CPU.
So WP7 is suitable only to low end smart phones. Plan B has sense. Nokia WP7 phones should be tried first just with couple of models in North America and see how it goes.

And what it comes to differentiation, all new Android high end phones published in Barcelona are very much different.

WP7 then. Elop said, Nokia won't change it much at all but leaves it how MS wants, because that would be the problem with Android-phones, everyone having different GUI.
Elop is full of BS, wants to differentiate but do not want to change anything in WP7 from the other WP7-phone-manufacturers (who all have also Android and are riding with two horses to see which is better in the long run.)

Elop's strategy is just plain stupid as stock markets show also.

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2011/02...s_are_missing/

With Windows Phone 7, Microsoft took the Window CE kernel and built a tightly controlled and carefully managed environment around it. Microsoft also rigidly specifies what kind of devices OEMs can build. It must have three buttons, not four. WP7 currently supports just one CPU and one screen size. And WP7 is very much a greenfield site: a large number of features supported by the competition are also missing. The list is pretty daunting.
If WP7's code is not thread-safe, it will take years to get multi-core support. Can Nokia really afford to wait that long?

Just plain stupid was the so called plan A. Elop should be fired as soon as possible.
 

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#119
this became uber fun, just can't wait plan a to fail, board will have plenty of others to consider
 

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#120
Already over a thousand followers at Twitter.
http://twitter.com/NokiaPlanB

Not that bad in only 24 hours. Go plan b!
 
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