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2010-02-15
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#102
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The Maemo community is the single biggest asset, but I don't view MeeGo as a marriage (imagining merging two existing communities was too hard, and lead to feelings of hurt that Moblin seemed to be providing the technology and Maemo the consumer hardware, Qt-based UI and - probably - developer tooling).
This isn't a marriage, it's a child. It's a new platform and a new community - but the Maemo community seems to have far more power and cohesiveness than the Moblin community, so how do we bring that 5-year old knowledge to MeeGo? [...]
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2010-02-15
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#103
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I found, that during transition sticking together, making sure that we communicate our needs and proposals bears better results than during peaceful times.
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2010-02-15
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#104
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2010-02-15
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#105
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And I'm not trying to sound bitter, but it does *feel* like the council was superfluous in this marriage. In general we were told we couldn't be told anything. I was asked not to speculate and honored that-- which is okay, because I would have been drowned out by everyone else today.
But it's obvious some had knowledge. Moderators were requesting many changes to the forum that were said to make sense but went unimplemented nonetheless. So Reggie had to know, at least.
Can you please share the URLs of what you have read? Valerio (chairman of the council) was briefed under NDA last week. That is all we could do under the strictly confidential conditions prior to the launch.
> How can Nokia profess to be all about the community when it
> totally left the entire community and the council out of everything?
By keeping all the community related items open and untouched before the launch. By kickstarting the community discussion right after the launch.
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2010-02-15
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#106
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Never quite sure what I was supposed to be doing, never quite sure what Nokia was doing until I read about it on talk.maemo.org, never quite sure how much Nokia was listening, never quite sure that anybody at maemo.org was listening and never quite sure that anybody at talk.maemo.org was listening, either .
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2010-02-15
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#107
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And not even the community: technology roadmap, organization, tools, etc, are all very nebulous now. They should have saved the announcement for later when more concrete work was done.
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2010-02-15
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#108
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You know, this part truly scares me.
It is like the community here was an afterthought in the deal...
And not even the community: technology roadmap, organization, tools, etc, are all very nebulous now. They should have saved the announcement for later when more concrete work was done.
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2010-02-15
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#109
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I wish that could have been done as well. But maybe the thought was that it opened the goal up to too much premature exposure. I don't know.
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2010-02-15
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I think it's better to get the announcement out sooner rather than later, because it gives everyone an opportunity to get involved or at least a chance to speak up before the concrete work is done.
This was a commercial decision. Whether it's a sensible one we'll find out. However, the Maemo Community Council has never been involved in the governance or direction of Maemo as a product; just as a community.
And Intel and Nokia seem to have gone out of their way to leave all community aspects to the communities involved. Now, that may be very risky - but this is where we have a chance to lead :-)
Andrew Flegg -- mailto:andrew@bleb.org | http://www.bleb.org