Originally Posted by endsormeans

I don't believe for 1 second that our posts would EVER be covertly moderated for our own well being how did when the fact remains and in conclusion I reiterate that thank you and good night

Originally Posted by chemist

That is what in general is happening, you report with a reason, if the mod does not see reason it is dropped, if he sees reason he acts,

Originally Posted by chemist

Correcting spelling mistakes ok, I can even live with replacing google with android, but rephrasing whole sentences is not part of your job description - that was off limits. Especially when you just correct spelling, that is oddly strange to people not having an edit note, keep it short though [spelling,language,missing link] like notes.
So please limit your edits to stuff like that, don't rephrase whole sentences for people (ignore that for obviously foreign speakers where you get the context but the phrases are just wrong - still note "rephrased" please). Less is sometimes more.

Originally Posted by pichlo

Here is what I would do if I were a moderator.

First of all, no silent edits/deletes/moves. My personal affiliations go out of the window. With a moderator's hat on, I do not have any personal opinion. If someone gets reported, I ask the reporter and the reportee to explain themselves. Moving/editing/deleting posts is the very last resort and when it comes to that, I would add a comment explaining the reason.

That is what I would do. YMMV.

Originally Posted by chemist

ZogG, after the first argument between you and jalyst I have spoken to him, so in the future he should add editorial notes if he does edit posts - if on the other hand a post is rude or reported, you better do not start a fight about a silent edit, rules actually have infraction points for you so if a moderator removes "bad" stuff without further notice and you did not get any points either, why bother? We are or at least should be grown up enough to admit to our own mistakes. If you supply links to the current situation I will have a look though.

Pichlo, iirc you have been complaining about such unnotified edit and while I understand that you want an explanation, the same rules apply to you, having a dirty mouth and getting edited because you get reported and do not get any infraction points for it should teach you a lesson. Bluntly my reply to your inquiry can be read as "shut up", yes, if you want to. I wasn't council and I find it offensive to go up the food chain without talking to me first. I took it first of all as a personal insult. I do not have hard feelings though. Never the less you are here again bloating about it. I have explained every detail there is, if you are still unhappy, so be it, that is what moderation looks like, you make a mistake, you get moderated - I will personally take care that the next time you get your explanation and your infraction points and no more silent edits - if you don't want special treatment that way let me know and we call this the year of moderation and I will take care that any moderation has its points applied to the users - just kidding, hope you get it now.

For both of you, if jalyst plays up, let me know!

Jalyst while you are here, you may explain yourself...

Originally Posted by jalyst

I'm really disappointed at the attempts to character assassinate here, I'm genuinely trying to do my job, nothing more & nothing less. I can't constantly waste huge amts of time on this sort of thing, this is the explanation I gave ZoGg, outraged again at TMO's bias against him (yes he's said that sort of thing quite a few times -not my words):



At no time have I been biased, I have only ever tried to ensure that the rules aren't being bent -too much. My conscience is clear, I know I did the right thing, like anyone though I'll sometimes make mistakes. As you've seen in our convo above, I'll try not to forget adding a clear explanation for every single post edit, if/when they're done.

The suggestion by some here (well, one really) that I'm behind every single poor mod decision (IYO) that's occurred, is just downright wrong, misleading, & extremely offensive. Please by all means some of you suggest a motion to have me expelled, if you think that's the fair & reasonable thing to do, it'll certainly give me quite a bit more free time.

Maybe one of you feel you can do a vastly better job*, based on your idealisation on how moderation should be done, & perhaps you really can. I very much doubt that though, as I take the responsibility very seriously (as one should), & usually ponder every single decision once & then several times. Amongst that I'll occasionally "err", I'm human. This is all I'm going to say, not subscribing to this thread, I honestly can't afford to waste one more minute on this, I'm sorry.

Have a good day.
*assuming you realize all the extra running around it can often entail

e.g. my post that was deleted for word "fanboy" is not more insulting than calling someone bottom of food chain and tell them to shut up). English is not my native and i might make mistakes, and if you want to help me, you can PM me and i'll fix it, but do not kindergarten me

Originally Posted by chemist

... We are or at least should be grown up enough to admit to our own mistakes. If you supply links to the current situation I will have a look though....

Originally Posted by endsormeans

Everyone knows the real purpose of the internet...
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