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2011-09-22
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The Nokia board may as well have walked into a casino and bet the company on red. That would probably have been a safer gamble, as my guess is that the probability of success under the current strategy is less than 0.5. Unlike the spinning of a roulette wheel, this is not some kind of independent Bernoulli trial where the previous results don't matter.
And now the end is near
And so we face the final curtain
My friend I'll say it clear
MeeGo is dead of that I'm certain
And so we went with Windoze Phone
Because Steve Ballmer had his say
And more, much more than this
We did it his way.
His Way by S.Elop
And now the end is near
And so we face the final curtain
My friend I'll say it clear
MeeGo is dead of that I'm certain
And so we went with Windoze Phone
Because Steve Ballmer had his say
And more, much more than this
We did it his way.
His Way by S.Elop
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2011-09-22
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Originally Posted by marxian
BAAAAA your just plain MADDD you are
The Nokia board may as well have walked into a casino and bet the company on red. That would probably have been a safer gamble, as my guess is that the probability of success under the current strategy is less than 0.5. Unlike the spinning of a roulette wheel, this is not some kind of independent Bernoulli trial where the previous results don't matter.
And now the end is near
And so we face the final curtain
My friend I'll say it clear
MeeGo is dead of that I'm certain
And so we went with Windoze Phone
Because Steve Ballmer had his say
And more, much more than this
We did it his way.
His Way by S.Elop
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2011-09-22
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Originally Posted by marxian
Cute
The Nokia board may as well have walked into a casino and bet the company on red. That would probably have been a safer gamble, as my guess is that the probability of success under the current strategy is less than 0.5. Unlike the spinning of a roulette wheel, this is not some kind of independent Bernoulli trial where the previous results don't matter.
And now the end is near
And so we face the final curtain
My friend I'll say it clear
MeeGo is dead of that I'm certain
And so we went with Windoze Phone
Because Steve Ballmer had his say
And more, much more than this
We did it his way.
His Way by S.Elop
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2011-09-22
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Originally Posted by abill_uk
maybe in the future, but WP is a bit of a problem for me since I don't use Windows on my desktop anymore, and use very few Microsoft web services (hotmail mostly). So that would make a WP a very stand-alone device for me. I tried modern versions of most of the other os-es (iPod touch, Palm Pre 2, Nokia C7, Samsung GS2), so I think eventually I will also try WP (they are rather affordable actually ).
HAHA your brave but you need to go a little further than that
Originally Posted by abill_uk
The smartphone world has changed. Focus today is on software not hardware, and Nokia needed to switch focus and compete with long-term software-companies IN software development.
Nokia was falling flat on its face with software development and it was so clear to see, if you look at there past it got steadily worse from 06 onwards, that means the software development was falling apart at the seams especially Maemo and meego but i do not know why, that part is a mystery to me.
They had to do something or sell up and go home, now we have the venture just sit back and enjoy the show.
10 months is a killer to those who wait for products, i don't now as i got burnt with the N900.
That isn't easy at all. Could Nokia have done better or even succeed? Maybe, probably, who knows. It doesn't matter.
I totally agree with an old arstechnica article that adopting WP is Nokia deciding it could not compete in software: Capitulation.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/...y-platform.ars
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2011-09-22
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Originally Posted by Bernard
The way Nokia was going they had totally lost it in the end with Maemo and i do not think they had any hope left of even producing software in house and i really do not understand why this happened but it was a clear move with Microsoft as a last chance effort i think before selling up.
The smartphone world has changed. Focus today is on software not hardware, and Nokia needed to switch focus and compete with long-term software-companies IN software development.
That isn't easy at all. Could Nokia have done better or even succeed? Maybe, probably, who knows. It doesn't matter.
I totally agree with an old arstechnica article that adopting WP is Nokia deciding it could not compete in software: Capitulation.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/news/...y-platform.ars
WP may well be windows based or as marxian says wondoze ha but it is certainly going to open a few doors no matter which way you look at it and most probably will be a market breaker, it has to be to save Nokia.
Elop IS a damm good manager and i am sure if it were not for the fact he wants WP he would be very liked on here if he had stayed with Maemo and meego.
I can not really complain of Microsoft because they have earned me more money than i could even hazard a guess at and i am sure WP will also be an engineers delight so for me i really will just sit back watch and wait, see where it goes and let's face it we do not have any choices.
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2011-09-22
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Originally Posted by abill_uk
Everybody does have a choice. The mobile space is vast, and still has lot of different players. Just because Nokia decides to make WP phones, doesn't mean you have to buy them.
I can not really complain of Microsoft because they have earned me more money than i could even hazard a guess at and i am sure WP will also be an engineers delight so for me i really will just sit back watch and wait, see where it goes and let's face it we do not have any choices.
From what I read, development for WP is rather restrictive. But if you are an experienced silverlight or xna developer it may very well be "a delight".
I don't know, I'm not
Development for WP7 requires a Windows PC. A virtual machine does not work, so that makes it even more hassle to try it for me.
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2011-09-22
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LOL. We talk about Nokia having management troubles, but HP seems to be FAR worse:
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/22/bu...pagewanted=all
absolutely mind-boggling
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/22/bu...pagewanted=all
absolutely mind-boggling
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2011-09-22
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With all the giants dying the future looks monipolistic, reminds me of how in "The Demolition man" the one and only restaurant was taco bell.
Who will be the taco bell of the IT industry?
Who will be the taco bell of the IT industry?
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2011-09-22
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Who cares? CTOs come and go. Its the final product that matters.
They had to do something or sell up and go home, now we have the venture just sit back and enjoy the show.
10 months is a killer to those who wait for products, i don't now as i got burnt with the N900.