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Originally Posted by zero2007
And the problem with the described behaviour is.......?
Even if you add a username to your account your email address is still displayed in the CC list as well as every who has posted to the bug
Had i know of this i would have never reported a bug
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2010-03-08
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Originally Posted by craftyguy
Better to avoid any mailing list then, as it uses.... email. :-)
But some people do care. People like the OP (and a lot of my close friends) like to preserve their privacy rights.
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2010-03-08
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Originally Posted by Andre Klapper
But it is typically not possible for a mailing list user to see all of the members of a list, as mail messages only go to the mailing list address.
Better to avoid any mailing list then, as it uses.... email. :-)
I am a bit disturbed by the somewhat flippant responses to this privacy issue. It reminds me of Google's attitude: http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2009/12...misses-privacy Just because you don't think that this isn't important doesn't mean that you should dismiss those who think that it is.
I would like to understand why maemo think that they can ignore the DPD, just because it is an upstream bug. The server administrators might want to consider who is responsible for the maemo.org servers and the legal implications thereof. I think you are sorely mistaken if you think that "it's an upstream bug" will hold up in court.
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2010-03-08
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Originally Posted by ossipena
Good question. I think the info should be clearly disclosed during account creation.
btw does the bugzilla account creation state that the email wont be shown to anyone?
And FYI-- I'm not being flippant at all about this. I do understand and agree with privacy concerns in general. But incertain instances we decide where we want privacy and where we don't mind info shared. In the context of bug reporting, why would we want anonymity from participants? That's not a rhetorical question; I'm genuinely curious.
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2010-03-08
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Originally Posted by Texrat
I should clarify that I am not that bothered about privacy on maemo.org - I use the same username here as I do on several other sites and it is trivial for people to find out my real-world identity. Off the top of my head I can't think of any situations where you might want to hide the submitter's e-mail address, but at the same time I think it is not right that the e-mail address is made public without warning. You can easily imagine that someone might want to set up a throwaway e-mail account for reporting bugs if they knew that this setup was in effect.
Good question. I think the info should be clearly disclosed during acciunt creation.
And FYI-- I'm not being flippant at all about this. I do understand and agree with privacy concerns in general. But incertain instances we decide where we want privacy and where we don't mind info shared. In the context of bug reporting, why would we want anonymity from participants? That's not a rhetorical question; I'm genuinely curious.
But the revelation of e-mail addresses is really a side issue. The real problem for me is the inability to delete accounts, as this is a legal requirement and other websites (specifically Facebook) have got into trouble over this.
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2010-03-08
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Originally Posted by Texrat
I think the issue is that you can not specify a username to show in lieu of the email address. I know there are some bugs with quite a few comments. I wouldn't necessarily want everyone that comments on the bug (or just views it while logged in) to see my email. If more info is required the administrators can contact me for more info. Assuming that for some reason I commented, but aren't following the bug.
Good question. I think the info should be clearly disclosed during acciunt creation.
And FYI-- I'm not being flippant at all about this. I do understand and agree with privacy concerns in general. But incertain instances we decide where we want privacy and where we don't mind info shared. In the context of bug reporting, why would we want anonymity from participants? That's not a rhetorical question; I'm genuinely curious.
I don't think anyone here would like their email address to be shown to anyone logged in to the forum. Does your email address show to all logged in on wiki pages?
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Originally Posted by lemmyslender
Then it's probably best that you cease your participation on bugs.maemo.org.
I think the issue is that you can not specify a username to show in lieu of the email address. I know there are some bugs with quite a few comments. I wouldn't necessarily want everyone that comments on the bug (or just views it while logged in) to see my email. If more info is required the administrators can contact me for more info. Assuming that for some reason I commented, but aren't following the bug.
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2010-03-08
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Originally Posted by Andre Klapper
What a horrible "official" response to this issue from Nokia. Yes it's an official response because you represent Nokia as an employee.
Better to avoid any mailing list then, as it uses.... email. :-)
Discouraging others from participating in debugging your buggy software just because they have privacy issues?? Tisk tisk..
Note: I do not have a problem with the way it is now, but others do, and I understand the problem they have with it.
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2010-03-08
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craftyguy, note the emoticon after Andre's statement.
What a horrible world we're in if wry humor is now considered... horrible.
What a horrible world we're in if wry humor is now considered... horrible.
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Not perfect by any means but it's all we have for now.
Thanks Andre.