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Originally Posted by Rushmore
The Pandora team has an extremely good board designer, so there's no need for that
.... I wonder if they are sticking N900's inside the Pandora case?
)They must have a very understanding bank or investers to allow this much time to go by with no real product to support a revenue stream.
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2009-10-26
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Meh, I got sick of waiting the insane time that it took for the Pandora to come to be built (and its still not done) since I originally preordered (well over a year ago), so I just took my money back. I put my faith in Nokia to finish first.
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2009-10-26
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Thanks for all that good news and information. I'm not as bold as you and I'm very lazy, and that's why I write most of my stuff with pygtk. But it's good to hear that people like yourself are properly leveraging the power of shared libraries. For what I use it for, the n8x0 has proven to be an excellent platform and I won't be abandoning it. I plan on keeping it part of my test bed as long as I can. That said, and because of my recent needs, the time might be ripe for me to pay closer attention to Mer.
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Thanks for all that good news and information. I'm not as bold as you and I'm very lazy, and that's why I write most of my stuff with pygtk. But it's good to hear that people like yourself are properly leveraging the power of shared libraries. For what I use it for, the n8x0 has proven to be an excellent platform and I won't be abandoning it. I plan on keeping it part of my test bed as long as I can. That said, and because of my recent needs, the time might be ripe for me to pay closer attention to Mer.
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Go Pandora! Go Nokia! Go Mer! Go TI! Go AI! Microsoft Die!
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2009-10-26
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Johnx: I don't get an us-and-them feeling from this thread.
Just for comparison, the N900 is shipping a month later than expected when pre-orders were opened to the public. Have you seen the insane posts in the long long threads yelling at Nokia about it?
This thread is quiet and restrained in comparison. We all want Pandora to ship, and we're having a bit of fun about trying to guess who will get their product out the door first.
It has been a very long time since anyone has shipped anything. We're a bit impatient.
Just for comparison, the N900 is shipping a month later than expected when pre-orders were opened to the public. Have you seen the insane posts in the long long threads yelling at Nokia about it?
This thread is quiet and restrained in comparison. We all want Pandora to ship, and we're having a bit of fun about trying to guess who will get their product out the door first.
It has been a very long time since anyone has shipped anything. We're a bit impatient.
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2009-10-27
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Originally Posted by qole
Good point! If you extrapolate from a one month N900 delay and those same people with the one year delay for Pandora- ZOWEEEE!
Johnx: I don't get an us-and-them feeling from this thread.
Just for comparison, the N900 is shipping a month later than expected when pre-orders were opened to the public. Have you seen the insane posts in the long long threads yelling at Nokia about it?
This thread is quiet and restrained in comparison. We all want Pandora to ship, and we're having a bit of fun about trying to guess who will get their product out the door first.
It has been a very long time since anyone has shipped anything. We're a bit impatient.
This thread would be a dark hole sucking in time and space. Really.
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2009-12-21
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So, fanoush, do you have your N900 developer device yet?
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2009-12-21
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Originally Posted by qole
Yes :-) Got it week (or two?) ago. Same day as others in Europe. As for the bet we never finished (right?) - I would lose and you would win, congratulations :-) I still think I wouldn't mind losing.
So, fanoush, do you have your N900 developer device yet?
Up to the last minute when DDP waked from 1 month sleep and started to send shipping confirmations it was really hard to know who will win. Both parties tried very hard to be as slow as possible and finally Nokia lost temper in this snail race :-) If you checked latest pandora news (pandorapress.net) they semi-seriously planned (i.e. confirmed like many times before) to ship before this christmas but failed (again :-) The final case is not finished yet, some final tuning still needed. But we see first final black pandoras and there is even one recent review in the blog from someone visiting Evildragon at home and testing the black one so it is really near this time
Maybe "in two months(tm)" is really becoming "in one month (tm)"? Would I count as being optimist or pesimist when I say now than Pandora will ship before RX-71?
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2009-12-22
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fanoush: If you wouldn't mind losing, there are many people (including me) who would be very grateful to you if you did some work on any of the tasks you mentioned:
EDIT: I don't own a 770 so your 770 work wouldn't be so interesting to me. But I bet some would be ecstatic...
By the way, you're right, it really seemed there was a "who can be the slowest" race between Pandora team and Nokia.
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Originally Posted by fanoush
I... or you could choose from list of following tasks for me to do
- implement screen rotation to 770 2.6.16 kernel (for OS2006 and hacker editions), sadly the kernel part only, not sure about xserver side, OS2007 and up is perhaps OK, OS2006 version sources had incomplete dependencies so I failed to rebuild it when I tried
- implement screen rotation and port tearsync to any kernel Mer will use for 770
or you can suggest something similar related to kernel or http://fanoush.wz.cz/maemo/ stuff that needs improvement :-)
Originally Posted by fanoush
My personal favorite is the N8x0 xv overlay rotation. That would be a great benefit...
Another ideas are
- make N8x0 screen rotation working with xv overlay properly (video playback while rotated)
- backport/implement xv overlay (=more framebuffer planes) to 770 kernel
- write cal-tool command replacement that could safely write r&d mode, serial console and watchdog flags and any other value stored in CAL area (/dev/mtd1) directly from tablet via messages sent to dsme
EDIT: I don't own a 770 so your 770 work wouldn't be so interesting to me. But I bet some would be ecstatic...
By the way, you're right, it really seemed there was a "who can be the slowest" race between Pandora team and Nokia.
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2009-12-22
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Concerning Pandora, there's a fresh hands-on review:
http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php...ndora-preview/
In next two months it's going to be available
http://www.gp32x.com/board/index.php...ndora-preview/
In next two months it's going to be available
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They both use an OMAP3 SoC with similar qualities, and for that matter the N900 one is also similar (although of a different model b/c it's a phone). The Pandora has twice the amount of NAND flash compared to the BB though (and it used to have twice as much RAM too, but the latest revision of BB has changed that).
BB and Pandora both have Angstrom-based "default" system software, so yes, there is considerable possibilities for code sharing and common development. But it's better than that: With last year's Pandora development kit I built some software (simple SDL game stuff) that would run just fine on my N800 (OS2007). That is, the executable itself ran on everything (BB/Pandora/N800). Obviously later SDKs are more geared to OMAP3, and there will be OpenGL ES applications etc. that won't run on my OS2007-based N800 out of the box. The N900 should be an even better match at this point.
The Pandora is already using a wi-fi driver based on the open-source efforts of Nokia (it was originally based on a binary blob, which wasn't as good). And all these projects are forwarding changes/improvements to the kernel upstream and will probably help to improve each other.
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