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mikecomputing	2013-10-28 , 21:59
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Originally Posted by marmistrz

Or Tuner, which is an unique app! It's why I was playing around with libhildon1 on Harmattan - to get this app running

/edit: and it's much easier to "hildonize" gtk interface of an already-gtk app that to rewrite it in Qt.

mmm very good idea try porting fremantle/HildonUI apps to sailfishos/nemo NOT...

Just wonder how much time developers will use when for porting old libs and unusable UI, instead of just redo the app(s) for nemo/sailfish ui instead?.......

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malkavian	2013-10-28 , 22:18
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Android aplicattions to monitor your exercise routes:

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genchigenbutsu	2013-10-29 , 00:54
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It would be nice if Sleeper is exported to Sailfish. It's the timer app on the N9 that automatically turns off the music player. I use it daily.

	Mikkosssss	2013-10-29 , 05:07
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Originally Posted by genchigenbutsu

It would be nice if Sleeper is exported to Sailfish. It's the timer app on the N9 that automatically turns off the music player. I use it daily.

If not ported you can probably do that from terminal command.

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	xerxes2	2013-10-29 , 21:04
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Originally Posted by MartinK

I think GTK3 should be good to go as it should have mainline Wayland support. I would say some mucking with GTK3 packages from Fedora/OpenSuse in Mer OBS should do the job.

GTK2 is more complicated as it does not support Wayland, so XWayland will be needed first for it to work. Hacking it work directly with Wayland might not be an option, as at least GDK is directly using & exposing (I've actually used some of that in modRana ) a lot of X stuff.

Still, GTK is IMHO not that suitable for mobile GUI development. Sure, it is possible, but it is quite a masochistic exercise, provided there are better suited alternatives available, such as Qt.

I got a bit curious about this so I tried to get GTK to work in Sailfish. Long story short, after upgrading and building the stack (glib, atk, gdk-pixbuf, cairo, pango, fontconfig, harfbuzz, wayland) under GTK which is needed for the newest GTK version (3.11.0), I finally got GTK to start compiling ... but then I hit this bug:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710584

So once that bug is fixed GTK can be built on Sailfish. I'm not sure if the Sailfish compositor allows it to run though. But if it does I guess that GTK3 apps will at least run on Sailfish. GTK2 needs xwayland to run and that is another story ...

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marmistrz	2013-10-30 , 18:08
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Originally Posted by xerxes2

I got a bit curious about this so I tried to get GTK to work in Sailfish. Long story short, after upgrading and building the stack (glib, atk, gdk-pixbuf, cairo, pango, fontconfig, harfbuzz, wayland) under GTK which is needed for the newest GTK version (3.11.0), I finally got GTK to start compiling ... but then I hit this bug:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=710584

So once that bug is fixed GTK can be built on Sailfish. I'm not sure if the Sailfish compositor allows it to run though. But if it does I guess that GTK3 apps will at least run on Sailfish. GTK2 needs xwayland to run and that is another story ...

Please comment the bug in the bugzilla and confirm it so that the developers might interest in fixing this.

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	xerxes2	2013-10-30 , 19:24
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Ok, I made a comment. But still, will be interesting to see if GTK works in Sailfish. Last time I tried not even raw QML worked. I was forced to use Silicas ApplicationWindow to get the app to run. This is the first time I'm using native Wayland so I'm not sure how windows works ... or if it's even called windows in Wayland. If GTK somehow can bypass the whole Sailfish UX? Anyway, if GTK works in Sailfish there will be some more apps that do not exist on other mobile systems and that must be a good thing.

Edit: And MartinK seems to have started to build the gtk stack here:
http://repo.merproject.org/obs/home:...est_i586/i586/

But a few packages that already exist in Sailfish (glib, cairo, pango, fontconfig) will need to be upgraded to make gtk work.

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cuteTube on Sailfish: http://marxoft.co.uk/cutetube/sailfish/

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	w00t	2013-11-02 , 12:31
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Originally Posted by xerxes2

Ok, I made a comment. But still, will be interesting to see if GTK works in Sailfish. Last time I tried not even raw QML worked. I was forced to use Silicas ApplicationWindow to get the app to run.

It should most likely work. It won't be at all optimal or tested, but we don't require anything special.

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