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2009-07-28
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Originally Posted by Jaffa
Please don't forget Reggie.
...the maemo.org gang-of-four will expense Nokia directly...
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2009-07-29
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Originally Posted by sjgadsby
Or sjgadsby.
Please don't forget Reggie.
Tim
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2009-07-29
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Hi,
I don't think that "giving a lightning talk" should mean automatic sponsorship. I don't think "giving a presentation" should mean automatic sponsorship either. Someone might well want to travel from Wellington to be with the maemo.org people for the Summit, and have some interesting things to say in a presentation, but is his presence worth the $3000 it will take to get him there, when we could bring 10 people in Europe to Amsterdam for the same cost?
The only way to handle sponsorship requests is subjectively, and there's no way to put an objective filter on it to fix that - sorry to disagree with you Jaffa.
Dave.
Originally Posted by qgil
I kind of disagree. Lightning talks are a great way to broaden the content we get exposed to, not all of them are good, and that's kind of OK. Sure, mail the person back to ask a little more about the content and their motivations, perhaps point them to a site on giving a good lightning talk, maybe we could do "America's got talent" lightning talks where people can get buzzed off the stage?, but keep the lightning talks open.
> Anyone speaking in a "proper" session
In reality, a speaker can or cannot afford to travel to Amsterdam, no matter whether is to talk 5 minutes one time, two times, half an hour or two hours.
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In practice: the content committee needs to look carefully what lightning talks get approved, specially when they come from someone "unknown" in the community or difficult to evaluate based on e.g. other presentations elsewhere.
I don't think that "giving a lightning talk" should mean automatic sponsorship. I don't think "giving a presentation" should mean automatic sponsorship either. Someone might well want to travel from Wellington to be with the maemo.org people for the Summit, and have some interesting things to say in a presentation, but is his presence worth the $3000 it will take to get him there, when we could bring 10 people in Europe to Amsterdam for the same cost?
The only way to handle sponsorship requests is subjectively, and there's no way to put an objective filter on it to fix that - sorry to disagree with you Jaffa.
Dave.
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2009-07-29
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The proposals sound very reasonable, and I'm glad to see this sort of discussion in the open. Thank you Quim and Jaffa especially for facilitating.
/me gets to work on becoming a top 10 blogger...
Last edited by Texrat; 2009-07-29 at 19:19.
/me gets to work on becoming a top 10 blogger...
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2009-07-29
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Okay... after mulling this over for a while I have decided to swallow my pride and submit myself for sponsorship. Heck, I'll even put together a short presentation called "Community Engagement and Effective Communication". Alright, where do I sign...
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2009-07-29
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Originally Posted by dneary
I don't have a problem with disagreement[1], don't worry :-)
Someone might well want to travel from Wellington to be with the maemo.org people for the Summit, and have some interesting things to say in a presentation, but is his presence worth the $3000 it will take to get him there, when we could bring 10 people in Europe to Amsterdam for the same cost?
The only way to handle sponsorship requests is subjectively, and there's no way to put an objective filter on it to fix that - sorry to disagree with you Jaffa.
To clarify, with your subjective-criteria-only, it'd have to be something damned impressive to get sponsorship from that far away, even if the content committee considered it good enough to share. So "just" good stuff from Wellington will have to be presented by someone rich (or not presented at all this year, which is probably also valid)? :-/
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2009-07-30
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Originally Posted by lma
This is what I've been told - I will need to get approval for travel and accommodation of course.
Hm, that probably needs some clarification I think. Is there a separate budget for Nokia employees and maemo.org *masters? I would expect so, but I see that some have requested sponsorship and some haven't so there may be some internal confusion about this as well.
As a side point, I've been looking for accommodation in Amsterdam for a couple of days mid-week, and hotels there are very expensive. We probably need to block book hotel space in cheapish hotels straight away, if we can.
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2009-07-30
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Hey Quim, check your Nokia spam box-- I might be in it! 
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2009-08-03
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Originally Posted by dneary
OK, let's do it subjectively using the list I provided as a basis for prioritisation - but it won't be the be-all-and-end-all.
The only way to handle sponsorship requests is subjectively, and there's no way to put an objective filter on it to fix that - sorry to disagree with you Jaffa.
Dave: I know you've got a lot on your plate, so suggest that it's something the council does as a group; although we'll liaise with the content committee where appropriate.
How does that sound to everyone?
Thanks in advance,
Andrew
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